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Yoga inVision 5

On pages 67-68 Michael reports:

Cosmic Intellect"The cosmic intellect is actually a cosmic pool of unused intellects whichwere not assigned to any individual coreSelves. There is a supreme intellectwhich is used by the primal creator god but that is not the same as the cosmicpool of limited intellects.The intellect which I use, or the one which you use, came from thecosmic pool of unused intellects, except that now my individual intellect issegregated from the cosmic reservoir. The universe has a potential but onlya small part of this is in manifestation. The main potency is held in reservesand is not expressed during the creation except in tiny releases here andthere. These tiny releases are sufficient to produce what we observe andexperience.Under the influence of the intellect, I act as an agent of the cosmic poolof intellects in terms of fulfilling urges which were in the individual intellectwhich I was assigned at the beginning of my time. At this stage of the creation,when I realize that being an agent of this power is not in my interest, I maytake steps to sidestep that influence, to move from being its target.Meditation on Naad is the way to begin developing resistance to the influenceof the intellect. This allows the yogi to go with the siddhas and to developanother interest."

August 1, 2006"A limited being cannot be doing anything in this creation for himself orherself because that is not allowed. There is no way to initiate anythingafresh. One cannot do anything novel here because everything is circumspect according to the causal energies which produced this. One cannot beginanything now. Everything is a continuation of the potential energy whichcomprised causal energies at the onset of the time which produced this.A yogi should slide out from under these energies. He should allowothers to take his place participating in the development of this. If this mustgo on, then a yogi should be exempt from it and should realize that hisabsence will never cause this to cease."

My comment/thought when reading this: 

Under the influence of the intellect, I act as an agent of the cosmic poolof intellects in terms of fulfilling urges which were in the individual intellectwhich I was assigned at the beginning of my time. At this stage of the creation,when I realize that being an agent of this power is not in my interest, I maytake steps to sidestep that influence, to move from being its target.Meditation on Naad is the way to begin developing resistance to the influenceof the intellect. This allows the yogi to go with the siddhas and to developanother interest.

If an atma is assigned an intellect at the "beginning of time" what would motive that atma to question that influence and "develop another interest" contrary to its initial one?

Is the initial influence is a "red herring"? Meaning is it intended to be misleading or a distraction from the onset and the atma is tasked with developing a motive to seek a method/associations to "take steps to sidestep that influence" based on its experiences? 

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    • Dhyān Yogi 

      If an atma is assigned an intellect at the "beginning of time" what would motive that atma to question that influence and "develop another interest" contrary to its initial one?

      Generally speaking the atmas are not motivated to develop other interest but only to improve upon, adjust or eliminate certain interest. A child who finds itself soon after birth with some toys in a room, will try to use those toys, eat those toys and if possible change or smash them.

      The idea of who placed the toys in the room will not arise in the mind of the child. This means that if I find myself conscious in an environment and if I have no other information except my contract with that environment and its immediate contents, I will not have an idea of anything beyond that place.

      Motivation will be there but it will not arise that I should get away from that room. At least not until I experience some other room or place.

       

      Is the initial influence is a "red herring"? Meaning is it intended to be misleading or a distraction from the onset and the atma is tasked with developing a motive to seek a method/associations to "take steps to sidestep that influence" based on its experiences?

      The initial influence is not meant to mislead or to be a distraction. It is a distraction but even though it is, no one set it up as a distraction. The child is locked in a room by a parent but that does not mean that the parent has a deliberate idea to hid the rest of the world which is exterior to the room.

      It just happens to be convenient for the parent to confine the child.

      • Michael Beloved stated:

        The idea of who placed the toys in the room will not arise in the mind of the child. This means that if I find myself conscious in an environment and if I have no other information except my contract with that environment and its immediate contents, I will not have an idea of anything beyond that place.

        Motivation will be there but it will not arise that I should get away from that room. At least not until I experience some other room or place.

        Dhyān Yogi's comment:

        I love how you explained this because this is where I was going with this?

        Why are some inclined after experiencing another room but others are not?

        Aren't all atmas created equal?? Lol.

        Is this where " free will or will power" come into play? 

        • Free will?

          What is that?

          A figment of someone’s imagination?

          With so many influences pressing down on each side, what space is left for free will?

          It is a silly thought and nothing else.

           

          Created equal?

          Where is the evidence for that?

          So far science has found no two equal anything anywhere.

          There is always some large or small difference in some way. Hence even to mention the idea of ‘created equal’ is absurd.

          A better term may be created similar.

           

          But some ponder about another room, yes, we heard about some of those people.

          But maybe that they were influenced by someone from outside their situation.

          In Sanskrit there is a term, ‘avatar’, that indicates that someone from outside a dimension, entered that place and introduced new ideas.

          Foreign influence?

          It seems to be that we have the environment we found ourselves in and influences which somehow penetrated this native place. I did not go there but this guy told me about this other place. I trusted that he was truthful. I am building a spaceship to go there. It is a crazy idea but what have I got to lose.

          • Sounds like karmic influences are at play. Why you decided to search outside of the toy room and I decided to remain there seems to be influenced by our circumstances. Thank you for entertaining the discussion.

            • Thank you for posting and for the discussion!

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