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Samadhi Inquiry Questions/Answers

In your own experience of ultimate samadhi, how do you experience yourself?  Where do you go in ultimate samadhi?

 

This question is misleading because it presupposes that a person using a human body, a person who is currently limited, can experience the ultimate samadhi. This is a dangerous presumption and it shows human arrogance. It does not make sense that after say about at least thirteen (13) billion years, a person who is a limited human being, who in a sense is just like a little insect, will be talking about reaching anything ultimate.

 

I cannot answer the question so long as the word ultimate is used. It is not possible for a limited being, an insect or less in terms of the vastness of this cosmic manifestation to take command of anything ultimate or to stipulate to the ultimate that he or she should join, merge into or reach it.

 

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There is a question I could tackle however. Thus I will re-write it in this way:

In your own experience of consciousness transfer states, how do you experience yourself?  Where do you go in such experiences?

 

In such states the feeling of self varies from being pronouncedly present and being slightly present. When I am pronouncedly present, I have more objectivity and am positioned to observe myself in contrast to what is around me as an environment. When I am slightly present, it is a more subjective experience where the contrast between myself and the environment is barely perceptible. This does not mean that there is no contrast but it means that I do not have the required sensual tools to make the distinction. A blind man cannot distinguish colors even though colors are present. But that does not mean that there is are no colors even though from his perspective the colors are abstract or out of his sensible range.

 

I found that if one repeatedly returns into a certain transfer state experience, eventually one develops objectivity in it and can begin to see, like the blind man who over time develops visual perception and begins to describe colors where before his view was that there was nothing present.

 

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How do you experience yourself without adjuncts? 

 

Assuming that adjuncts are the sense of identity (ahankar), the intellect (buddhi), the kundalini (psychic lifeforce) with the senses (indriyas) and the memories (smriti), the experience without them is such that at first the core-self (atma) finds itself to be with just the ability to focus.

 

Then according to the level of transfer, it experiences itself with other self-abilities or with just the active or inactive ability to focus (साक्षिन् - sākṣin)

 

There is no one experience in this. Even the singular self-focus which is perhaps the most common ability which it has remaining after it is segregated from the adjuncts, has variations of how it relates to the environment it finds itself to be in.

 

In some experiences, one finds that one has either arrived into or is targeted by a higher energy, a bliss energy which has a visual take whereby one perceives it striking one as one would see and feel sunlight striking one’s body through a slot or window. In other experiences one seem to be floating in a sea of sublime energy which has a bliss aspect or which seems to be void of anything which might be described.

 

In some other experiences, one finds oneself in another existence which is totally apart from that one experiences in the physical or psychic material energy and being there with some other persons or person in a bliss body which is made out of one’s energy without adjuncts but with senses all the same being all made from the self of one’s core-self.

 

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Or do you assume purified adjuncts through which the sense of self and identity are experienced?

 

There are two states for this. One is the experience with purified and better outfitted adjuncts. That does happen in some experiences. Then there is the situation of having completely different senses which are created out of the substance of the atma, out of brahman energy just as the atma is.

 

One has increased psychic perception when the adjuncts which are the sense of identity, the intellect, the kundalini and its senses are upgraded, when they use a higher quality of energy. Then one has a sharper truer more accurate intuition and one experiences powers like clairvoyance and clairaudience.

 

In the upgraded subtle body, one may look into the intellect and see outside of the psyche into higher dimensions or one may peer through orifices like the brow or crown chakras

 

 

However greater than that is when the atma or core-self itself translates into itself being whatever senses are required. Then there are no adjuncts. Then the self itself is experienced with perception which is not based on additions to itself but which is itself in various formations. That is called a spiritual body as compared to a higher level of the subtle body.

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    • Mi~Beloved wrote:

      However greater than that is when the atma or core-self itself translates into itself being whatever senses are required. Then there are no adjuncts. Then the self itself is experienced with perception which is not based on additions to itself but which is itself in various formations. That is called a spiritual body as compared to a higher level of the subtle body.

       

      Email question:

       

      I wondered, in this state of existence, do you have a permanent spiritual/divine body and identity (i.e. are you in a spiritual place as a cowherd boy, as in Vrindaban, or in any other permanent configuration  there?  It sort of sounded like you were describing a shape shifting sort of identity where the core self has the ability to assume various forms in different environments. Or have I totally misunderstood?

       

      Mi~Beloved’s Response:

       

       

      It is not a shape shifting. That form is preset according to the needs of that environment. It is not determined by the yogi. Just as we find sometimes that a person discovers himself to be in an astral place in a certain body of a certain age with a preset role which he has to play, one finds the self to be such that one has a permanent spiritual/divine body and identity with preset relationships to others who are already existing in that divine place.

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