Nicely expressed! When the Yogi, or hopeful, décides to abandon the thinking process and there is no longer thought, an Absence overtakes the internal environment. But there seem to be two results, both cognized as Voidness: one, is the Voidness of nihilation, with its grey-ish, Duo-dimensional melieux, absent of Objectivity (contrast), except one.The other, is the Voidness that is actually a Plenum, Duo-dimensional in character, clear darkness, also absent of Objectivity, save one----This, which is "Witnessing" both types of Voidness.(This Witnessing characteristic may also be called "Turyia" or a "Discriminating Faculty," that can distinguish either type of Voidness.)The ability to concentrate the mind on a single object is not difficult to learn and achieve, but it pertains solely to the diffuse mind, and is of little value to the Sadhu's further pursuits, other than developing the means to control the Mind itself, and for Meditation.There seems to be little use for the "Third Eye," except for closer scrutiny of the content of thought. Blessings, y'all! Nirguna
Divine Eye Unlikely
It is unlikely that most of the people who aspire to experience the divine eye, will do so. There are many uses of the divine eye but to put it simply, it is not an eye like the visual experience we are familiar with. The physical vision system relies on two eyes. The divine eye is one orb but it may be a complex set of visionary equipment which are psychic stuff and not physical biological materials.
By itself, the divine eye is the intellect when that adjunct functions as a vision orb. Otherwise, the divine eye is that same intellect interlocked with the brow chakra mechanism. The rendering of reality by the intellect is a subjective perception which requires keen and sensitive detection.
The divine vision rendered by the intellect when it is interlocked with the brow chakra, results in what is termed as the third eye which is a singular vision orb. This may be experienced as a portal transmission, or access, to higher dimensions. For this, the yogi finds himself peering, or directs himself to look into other worlds. This is an objective perception as compared to the subjective view which is rendered when the intellect is used by itself and the brow chakra is not involved.
The intellect by itself is constantly used in the matter of thought illustration or projection. For this the brow chakra is not necessary. In fact, most people use the intellect or stated more precisely, most people are used by the intellect. And yet if one tries to use the intellect to peer into other dimensions, usually one is unsuccessful. It gives easy access only to things which concern the physical world.
Most yogis practice meditation but do not experience the intellect as anything but a thought creation, idea projection, and memory illustration mechanism. Even to realize this is difficult. Patanjali suggested, in fact, required, that the yogi cease the thought functions of the intellect. This is because the higher uses of the intellect cannot be experienced if the yogi does not close the operation of its lower functions which concern thought production.
One factor of the intellect which makes it difficult to cultivate its higher functions, is the fact that the intellect spontaneously operates to reach lower dimensions and to illustrate factors from this physical level. It rarely shifts upwards, and if it does so, the perception is without contrast and is so subtle as to be non-perceptible.
This means that any valid practice, for using the intellect in its higher modes may seem to be useless because what it renders from higher planes is not seen because of the lack of contrast and the subtlety.
When the intellect shows something from the physical level or from a lower plane, the yogi may undervalue that vision or perception which will discourage the development of the psychic operations.
A transparent person from a higher or lower dimension, who sits with a yogi, and who converses, may not be seen by the ascetic. At least not until there is a contrast or if the yogi can see transparent reality. Unless one has a sensitive mind, one cannot use many functions of the divine eye. Again, Patanjali’s instruction about ceasing the normal mental operations, is vital, because that is the only way one would develop the required sensitivity.
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Divine eye unlikely? That is not such a terrible thing. And I feel that it depends on other aspects of practice as well.
Stilling the mind is a great achievement. I believe it happens in stages and when it is initially attained, it is an acquired taste. When all the operations of the intellect cease such as memory, thinking, physical sensations, judgements, imaginations, and emotions, the state of consciousness which is left is unsettling and I often feel an opposing force. There can be a subtle pull to move off from the emptiness or nothingness. Sometimes I sense an uncomfortable pressure. All of these indicate that I am actually rapidly toggling between mental movement and stillness.
If stillness is achieved, there may be a blank screen in front, grayish and unstructured, like a fog. In stillness, there is no movement. From the point of stillness there is a knowing, observant function that is totally apart from usual mental operations.
Where is the bliss? Where is the sought after peace? Where is the opening of the divine eye?
The bliss and peace are subtle attachments which keep one in the sensual sphere. Attachment to any sense pleasure, no matter how subtle, causes one to yearn for these and hold onto these if they arise.
However when things are truly empty and blank or vacant, that is weirdly strange. I’m trying to get familiar with it whenever I am able to successfully calm down the mental operations. In stillness, there is no mental movement and nothing to know. Desire is absent as well. One overlooked aspect of entering stillness, the place of no mental movement, no clinging, no reaching for any object whatsoever, is the development of virtue. The relationship between virtue and concentration is intimate. Each braces and complements the other.
Some very driven yogis are able to master concentration without the mastery of virtuous qualities. They will get mystic skills for sure but will they be able to go to higher realms or end rebirth altogether? What type of rebirth will they get?
Spiritual and psychic development depends on so many things. Motive and virtue are essential for building the strong foundation for advancement. Patience is also essential.
Not developing the divine eye is okay. There’s plenty of other work to do that needs to be done to really elevate oneself.
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Here are some opinions to the same post from Yoga and Meditation group at Linked In.
Status is reachableVasudeva Vadlakonda 2nd degree connection2ndRetired from Government of India after serving DRDO and ISRO
(edited)Realizing third eye is Ultimate state of man, point of no return. It is also all about realizing God, attained by awakening Mother Spirit borrowing power from space ?️within, engaged in activity without exception.Without third eye (pineal gland at eyebrow centre), one’s own intellect, there is no science, arts, trade, and knowledge, more importantly Self knowledge. It is gift of God. No one is self made, and one should have humility to accept.Third eye can be realized only by man, at highest transcendental state (hard penance): by engaging oneself, in awareness. It is called Noumenal awareness of phenomenal existence. It is also called surrender to creative essence ?️, one’s own space. It happens naturally, near death at the end of reserve energy, either in this birth or next birth.Once, one is able to access dormant power within (reading his own mind), the process starts and ends in this very life if due. Life is all about incessant journey of invisible Soul?️, without which there is no existence. Everything is governed by Divine Ordinance, Universal laws of nature.1 Reply1 Comment on Vasudeva Vadlakonda’s commentStatus is reachableVasudeva Vadlakonda 2nd degree connection2ndRetired from Government of India after serving DRDO and ISRO
The perceiver is none other than Lord himself, manifesting as unknowable experiencer. Without him there is no animation or mind screen projecting nature, unique one’s own. Entire communication is provided by God, Lord’s nature, a phenomenon called Universal Consciousness.?️Shanti ?️?❤️ -
Gordon Patterson has a deep point.
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