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Ancestral Force Series-2: Ancestral Obligations stops Sannyasa (renunciation)

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September 25, 2021, Saturday

Winston Salem, North Carolina

3-4 pm

The Conference Phone Call and Puranic Celibacy stories:

Around September 13-15, 2021, there was a conference call from Madhvacharya (Michael Beloved) and 3 other members on it. That was my first ever conference call on WhatsApp, first few seconds it went slow and then Madhva went full barrage attacking someone in the call over the importance of Celibacy and I did not know who it was. Some shots were for me for being addicted to pornography but the majority were not for me and I was scratching my head about what was going on. I was wondering maybe all this beating is for me, maybe my subtle body did some crap behavior in front of him. But it was not me at that time.

During that time, Madhva invoked several stories to highlight the celibacy behavior for success in Yoga and banished any promiscuity. The stories are still etched fresh in my head.

Two main stories, he invoked:

  1. Shiva and Parvati Story: Madhva said "As sons of Shiva, we are here for proficiency in yoga and not for having sex around promiscuously. Mating is meant only for divine father and mother, super Gods like Shiva and Parvathi for creation purposes and when they do galaxies and universes start forming. Any sex other than procreation is prohibited in yoga and I want to be very clear on it. Glancing, flirting, porn viewing, and engaging in promiscuous sexual acts are completely banned and I want to be crystal clear on it"  
  2. Stories of 4 Sanat Kumaras: Madhva said "Remember 4 mind born ever-celibate sons of Brahma namely Sanaka, Sanatana, Sanandana and Sanat who are always in body of 5-year kids but possess tremendous knowledge and austerities, that's how one has to lead the life of celibacy towards enlightenment"

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These 2 main stories were given and he gave a stirring speech to invoke to sexual restraint and follow "brahmacharya" strictly (except for procreation purposes) as one of the prerequisites of Patanjali's Yoga Sutra for success in yoga.

Heart Stirred after hearing the word "Sanat Kumara":

During the call and that night, the moment I heard the name of 4 Sanat Kumaras, my heart stirred and shook my body. But I was still coming out from the ferocity of guru's voice on this issue, he thundered on us. After some time, when the immediate impact of the call slowed down, at the night, I could not sleep.

Rolling left and right on the floor without sleeping, purple energy right at the center of the chest starts spinning (as shown in the picture below).

Tears started flowing profusely all of a sudden, and my own thought from a higher dimension came to me "Time has come, Signal is given to start forth". 

With the purple ring circling my chest almost the entire night, scratching softly the chest with my finger on the purple bliss spot, tears flowing constantly, thinking "it took so long, so long, so long......". Remnant energy and urge for Sanyasa from past lives still lingering.

The word "Sanat Kumaras" was the strong trigger as they are the epitome of Sanayasa/ Renounciants and the symbol of unblemished pure spiritual knowledge. Usually, the laity is not fond of Sanat kumaras as they don't give out materialistic vibrations.

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Immediataelty, I decided it is time to go and see Guruji Madhva and make the next move in the yogic practice, there was not much improvement nor change in my behaviour as I expected and the time was running out soon with other distractions and weaker methods.

The hidden motive to visit Madhva was to take Sannyasa or at least make advancements towards that stage. Generally, one goes to guruji and gets permission, and gets initiated into the next stage of sannyasa. Ofcourse, I cannot mention it to Madhva, my subtle and physical body is trembling in fear to even take the word "Sanyasa" infront of him before finishing the ancestral obligation by giving bodies to decesaded ancestors. 

Madhva has already bombarded me on daily basis during that phase of 6 months from Mar - Sept 2021 to get married and has children to finish the ancestral obligation at the earliest and I was bombarding my family in return to accelerate the process of matrimony, to have kids at the earliest. The agreement or contract in the Indian family in which I took the birth is that the girl with whom I have to get married will be chosen by my family elders, not by me. This could be startling for westerners but that's how it has been thru ages and I can't come to a change in a mid-way, there are family deities protecting this contract. 

After a day, I called him and asked his permission to visit him and he thought for a few seconds and he was like "Okay, come". 

Ancestral Obligations stopping Sanyasa Efforts (Ascetic) 

Saṃnyāsa in Sanskrit nyasa means purification, sannyasa means "Purification of Everything".

Saṃnyāsa is a composite word of saṃ- which means "together, all", ni- which means "down" and āsa from the root as, meaning "to throw" or "to put". A literal translation of Sannyāsa is thus "to put down everything, all of it".

Sannyasa also means “abandoning” or “throwing down”.

On September 25, 2021, 3-4 pm. There was a dream.

In that astral projection, in beautiful white sand beach next to a flowing river (like Ganges in northern India) I started to happily and majestically walk by swinging my arms vivdly towards the great mountains (himalayas) in a loin cloth holding water pot (kamandala, the one which ascetics use) and stick.

At that time, suddenly my left foot was deeply planted in to the ground, and I could not  lift my left foot off the ground. I used extraordinary force to lift my left foot from the ground but to no avail and the left side of my body from the shoulder was also paralyzed.

Unable to lift my own left foot off the ground also proves and shows how limited, constrained, and dependent, my atma is. 

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Then 2 people appeared, it was a 5-year-old girl sitting on my left foot where my feet got stuck into the ground, and then an adult woman standing over my left shoulder and started crying profusely.

I made sure not to turn back and step forward but the left foot was literally immovable at that moment. I then turned around, and wiped her tears, and made her sit on the ground and sat with her. My heart melted with compassion seeing the tears on her face and uttered "Why all these tears, why are you crying.." 

The adult woman said "Babaji said you will leave Radha and go away.. That's exactly happening as he said, you are leaving Radha so harshly and going away" and she cried uncontrollably.

I wiped her tears without knowing how to console her bereaving.

Then, I woke up. I consulted with Madhva about this astral projection. The adult woman was my mother & some future wife's energy and the little girl is my ancestor who is waiting to be born as my daughter. They figuratively used word "Radha" for a lover/ loved one. and the word Babaji for the spiritual teacher/ father to convey that they knew what was coming as the Guru has hinted to them that I would be an ascetic and leave the loved ones behind.

The sannyasa trigger I got from hearing the mention of Sanat Kumara and the visit to Madhva was all kept secret from my family. At them time, a lot of communication was going to arrange a marriage for me, and there were a lot of hurdles on the path. I did not want to create any psychic storm again.

But unpackaging these renunciant ambitions deep from my heart kicked off several storms of which I was unaware at that time, this astral dream was the first one. The ancestors subtly sensed my intentions and astrally planted my feet into the ground to stop the renunciant ambitions.

There is no privacy or secrecy at any astral level. Even Buddha & Brahma did not have privacy, Buddha used to know all thoughts of Brahma and Brahma used to know the thoughts of Buddha.

The appearance of Family/ Village Guardian Deity

Then the visit happened to see Madhva on Sept 27- Oct 1, 2021. It was 12 hour's drive from North Carolina to Florida in a car. The visit was as usual, enlightening and terrifying, Madhva was as usual pummeling and disciplining me on several weaknesses over my practice, habits, and lifestyle. 

On Sept 30, 2021, Thursday, in the early morning around 5 am, astrally I was in Madhva's house.

Madhva was sitting in his chair with his usual body language of crossed legs and a book in his lap. I was sitting on the opposite chair. He was asking several questions to me and we had a conversation.

Astrally form changing is easy and quick based on the entity's inherent power and the dimension. Many people would have to take Madhva or Babaji's form astrally to make me listen to their words or even make me stay in that dimension for some time before slipping away, I was highly insubordinate and respected only my gurus and received commands only from them. So, some of my family members take their shape but I quickly find out that their real identities as they could not exercise so much power to maintain the resemblances, mannerisms & body language perfectly. 

A person in the form of Guru Madhva scolded: "Why are you trying to help your family? Whose energy are you running on?"

Me in a shocked tone: "I don't know"

A person in the form of Guru Madhva scolded: "You are running on my energy. Guess how much?" 

Me in fearfully: "40 - 50%"

A person in the form of Guru Madhva scolded: "Yeah, You are running on my energy for several births. And she showed a scorecard?" 

The scorecard looked like this. I took 2 consecutive births in this family and then after a gap, I took a birth again. I learn't it from the scorecard she showed me.

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A person in the form of Guru Madhva said in a medium tone: "You know Arjuna? Yeah, Arjuna. He worshipped me to get boons to defeat his enemies in battles"

I was wondering why all of sudden Arjuna was quoted and I was strangely sitting for the next few minutes silently in front of the person in the form of Guru Madhva with a slight shiver and wondering why this conversation is being so strict, in a disciplining mood and trembling. 

Slowly, the person's form changed from Madhva's form to Goddess form, she was in a black saree, dark complexion, a crescent on her head, a gold crown, and at the third eye she had a shiny red stone-like ruby shimmering.

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I slowly started to feel panic, once I saw the crescent on the head, I understood the super seriousness of the subject that she was one of the Shiva/Parvathi-related personalities, and started gulping saliva and trembling. The crescent on the head is a very highly recognized and respected insignia in the deity world, one does not want to mess up with such highly-ranked personalities.  

Slowly, she moved into a variant of a yogic posture like vasisthasana and started to lift her one leg and one hand while balancing the body with just one hand and one leg. It is a tough pose to master. And the Deity started chanting Sanskrit mantra "Gandaga Mandaka..." in that pose in a seriously scary tone. The energy in that vicinity increased manifold and now, I was trembling in folded hands and shivering at full scale, a little more display of power would have made me pee in my pants. 

The deity mentioned Arjuna's story to me so that I respect her authority and comply with the laid down rules of the current birth. I usually roam or am attracted only to male ascetics and male deities, I am scared from a childhood of female gods and tremble in fear whenever they take me to female god temples. Felt safer and more comfortable with male gods for some reason. 

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The aftermath of this incident:

I went and told Madhva.

Madhva said that she is my family/guardian deity. She has come to check on me. I already have had a few encounters with her by now. Most of the previous encounters were not so great and this was a warning encounter.

The deity is called Kaateri, she is the sister of Kali Maa and Ganga Maa. She is a benevolent and disciplinarian deity at the same time. My granny and mother worship her and other sister deities as per family customs.

Madhva said these words "Reformed man does not mean he can escape from the price he has to pay, go back and settle the scores".

I went on to elaborate on the astral recollection and Madhva yelled at me "Enough, man! Enough! I don't want to hear anymore, more.  The more I hear and more I will be pulled into your samsara. Already, I don't have peace astrally and physically. My hands are so tied up, there is no peace for me!!! You want to burden me more!".

I silently stopped myself ever since then I decided not to pull him into my karmic jungle, but sometimes I don't have anywhere to go and ask him for certain clarifications. 

Madhva asked me to go to the temple of these deities, pay respects and resolve the pending issues by getting married and giving kids.

Madhva went on and elaborated that "Yogi and Devatas (deities) are generally on friendly terms and comfortable with each other but people like you, who have committed past misdemeanors and trying to escape from the duties made the (mostly) ancestors tensed, frustrated and complain to the Deity and Deity comes in search of the Gurus asking did you write this and say these things to the boy that's why he acting in such a way and Guru says "No" and it all falls back to the yogi or guy to resolve the commitments"

Also, Madhva asked me to visit Sri M when I visit India because he also voluntarily took some responsibility of me even though he was advised not to do by Lahiri Baba and he guided me astrally and gave a good amount of energy astrally for advancements. I did try to visit Sri M ashram but the security guards did not let me see him due to Covid restrictions in place.

I went to India within 2 weeks. There were several restrictions on travel at that time and I needed a stamp from US embassies in India to return to the US & they were closed or operating with very less volume and the bride still was not finalized at that point, it was all in a cloudy stage and a lot of risks to take. On top of this, the secret missions of Renunciation in the psyche blossomed in my heart(like sons of Adi Shankara, his inspiration was there), this surely provoked already angry ancestors and it irritated the Deity even more and who came herself to discipline me by indirectly saying better go and finish the pending obligation.

After the deity's fiery command, all my other insecurities, and fears seemed nothing in front of it. Booked the flight in 2 weeks and finished the obligations but the road to completion was very very tough and somehow I survived.

Maddhva has pushed me and cornered me from day 1 and pummeled this information on ancestor obligation into my head with so many jabs that some days I have even fainted and felt dizzy with his berations. Still, with all this barrage and volley of insults and disciplines, my subtle desire for Sanyasa was trying to blossom slowly and I was trying to deflect the ancestor's obligations but I was psychically in a better position to fight off the ascetic desires to finish my ancestral obligations. I was deluded all the time with so many random bullets flying all over, only Guru Madhva showed the way to the right path to finish the duties.

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