Was I heading into the 4th dimension?
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 4 years before Jun 26, 2018
Lily 5 years ago
I've had sleeping paralysis since I was 15 years old. In the beginning I was terrified by the experience but through the years I've learned to live with it without fear. However just recently I've had something different that at first I thought it was one of the sleeping paralysis episodes but it just wasn't the same.
This is how it started, I'm laying in bed and all of a sudden my whole body is vibrating, even my teeth. Every inch of my body is vibrating and it is scary. When I wake myself up it usually goes away and doesn't return for another night. However, in this one occasion it was persistent. I was laying on my back and all of a sudden the vibrations came in, so I immediately woke myself up and laid on my side as I've read that position helps. That did not help the vibrations came in to play and then at that moment I decided to just see what would happen if I just didn't stop the vibrations. So as I laid there all of a sudden the vibrations left but then something interesting happened. There was this triangle that formed just floating in front of me. Then there was this glowing purple light that poured out from the sides of the triangle, and an eye formed right in the middle of the triangle and then that turned into images of people and events occurring in the triangle. What I saw in the triangle were people having conversations and/or arguments or just so much talking at once that it was hard to understand. The images kept on changing to different events with different people. It was like I was looking at a television and the channels were changing, finally it disappeared and I was completely awake. Does anyone know what this was? What should I do if this happens again?
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Lily wrote:
This is how it started, I'm laying in bed and all of a sudden my whole body is vibrating, even my teeth. Every inch of my body is vibrating and it is scary. When I wake myself up it usually goes away and doesn't return for another night.
MiBeloved's Response:
Was the vibration in the subtle body or gross body or both. It is important to distinguish between the two. Since the subtle body is interspaced in the gross one something occurring in the subtle body might be mistaken for an action in the gross one. Meditation would help to sharpen the distinction between the two.
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Lily wrote:
However, in this one occasion it was persistent. I was laying on my back and all of a sudden the vibrations came in, so I immediately woke myself up and laid on my side as I've read that position helps. That did not help the vibrations came in to play and then at that moment I decided to just see what would happen if I just didn't stop the vibrations. So as I laid there all of a sudden the vibrations left but then something interesting happened. There was this triangle that formed just floating in front of me. Then there was this glowing purple light that poured out from the sides of the triangle, and an eye formed right in the middle of the triangle and then that turned into images of people and events occurring in the triangle. What I saw in the triangle were people having conversations and/or arguments or just so much talking at once that it was hard to understand. The images kept on changing to different events with different people. It was like I was looking at a television and the channels were changing, finally it disappeared and I was completely awake. Does anyone know what this was? What should I do if this happens again?
MiBeloved's Response:
This is an activity of the third eye. It began with the vibrations of the kundalini energy up-energizing the subtle body and also vibrating to some extent in the physical system to cause the release of the subtle body. Once the subtle body was up-vibrating, then it assumes a higher vibration and the third eye became activated on a higher plane of existence and assumed the triangular form.
This will not happen frequently, so the question of what to do if it happens again, is not so relevant.
Third eye may take a triangular, rectangular, square-ish, circular, oval or even an indefinite shape and then will be like a large or small bay window through which one can see into other dimensions or see into this dimension even, see things which are occurring out of physical sight range in this dimension.
The glowing purple light may be of other colors, like dark grey, dark brown or some other color and is the vibrational energy of the third eye chakra itself in that particular frequency of operation.
Please see this excerpt from the Meditation Pictorial book regarding this: Look in the Files section for the file zz-Meditation_Pictorial_Excerpts_-third_eye.docx:
Let us know if you cannot open that file. It is a Word document (.docx).
Lily 5 years ago
Thank you so much for the information! I was intrigued but I wasn't sure what I had experienced. You asked if it was my subtle body or gross body. Well, every time I had these vibrations my husband was sleeping next to me and when I asked him if he felt me shaking or vibrating he said no, not even a little. Given that I think it was the subtle body vibrating. Thank you for the word doc, I was able to read through the third eye description.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
It is in the subtle body where this occurs, as the kundalini life force gets the subtle body into a vibration which de-synchronizes in reference to the physical form before the subtle body is astral projected.
Even if it stays interspaced into the physical form, if the astral body increases in frequency, you will be using astral senses and will have clairvoyance and other similar types of supernatural perception.
Here is a link to the Meditation Pictorial book:
Lily 5 years ago
Just read the synopsis of Meditation pictorial book and looks really interesting. I didn't mention this before but when I was going into the vibration state for the first time I woke myself up and screamed my deceased grandfathers name out. I didn't think anything of it and didn't mention it before because it didn't make any sense. I wonder if he was somehow involved in these experiences I've been having. Maybe not involved but maybe he was present? I hope my curious questions don't offend you as I'm merely just dabbling into what I've gathered. It could just have been a coincidence. Anyway I just downloaded your book and I'm looking forward to learning more about astral projection.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Lily wrote:
Just read the synopsis of Meditation pictorial book and looks really interesting. I didn't mention this before but when I was going into the vibration state for the first time I woke myself up and screamed my deceased grandfathers name out. I didn't think anything of it and didn't mention it before because it didn't make any sense. I wonder if he was somehow involved in these experiences I've been having. Maybe not involved but maybe he was present? I hope my curious questions don't offend you as I'm merely just dabbling into what I've gathered. It could just have been a coincidence. Anyway I just downloaded your book and I'm looking forward to learning more about astral projection.
MiBeloved's Response:
Study the Sleep Paralysis book and also the Astral Projection book. Usually the scary happenings at the time of sleep paralysis, is not connected to the vibrations of the subtle body and is a coincidence.
One way to look at this is that if I am trapped in a room with a criminal, then I would naturally dart for the door to get out of there, if I feel that there was nothing else I could do to escape. However if when I get to the door I find that it is locked, then I would panic and I might think that perhaps it was locked by the criminal.
The criminal might have nothing to do with the latched or locked door but I will feel that he is responsible for it, and that he wanted to trap me in that room.
During an astral projection or during a shift over to the subtle body while it is interspaced in the physical one, if someone who is scary approaches from the astral side, one might think that the intruder caused the sleep paralysis or supernatural state.
It is a fact that an ancestor can cause one’s astral body to go where the ancestor is in the astral world. This does happen on the basis of the ancestor’s rights in the life of his or her descendants.
To understand how the deceased relatives play a part in the life of their physically living descendants, read the book sex you!
Lily 5 years ago
MiBeloved wrote:
It is a fact that an ancestor can cause one’s astral body to go where the ancestor is in the astral world. This does happen on the basis of the ancestor’s rights in the life of his or her descendants.
Lily's Response:
It's intriguing to me that my experiences regarding astral projection could be somehow linked to my decease grandfather because we were really close. He's been gone for more than 10 years and although thinking that he could be trying to lead me somewhere is exciting, I pray that he is resting in peace and not in between worlds.
I'm a quarter into the Meditation Pictorial book and will look into the Sex You book as soon as I'm done.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Lily wrote:
I pray that he is resting in peace and not in between worlds.
MiBeloved's Response:
Resting in peace?
Where?
How?
What happens when his beauty nap is over?
Where will he go?
What will he be?
Lily 4 years ago
Hi Mibeloved,
It has been a while since I had an astral projection experience. Just recently I had a similar experience like before. Maybe you can give some insight. I was just taking a nap on my couch and began to feel my body vibrating but I snapped out of and nothing else happened, this happened one more time with no outcome. The third time I tried to take a nap the vibrations came in and I saw in the distance a triangle with the sky inside of it. That went away and a huge circle of purple light appeared and all of a sudden all colors started to appear in front of me sequentially. I don't remember the order but it was magnificent. As I was staring into this changing of colors it appeared like I was falling through a tunnel straight towards the colors. While falling through this "tunnel" I saw stars swiping by me really fast. At the end of this I saw incoherent images. One was the silhouette of a bulls head. Right after that I saw a baby upside down crying. After that image I heard my husband making noise and I snapped out of it. I'm obviously still a beginner and would like to learn more about astral projections and the third eye.
Thank you,
Lily
MiBeloved 4 years ago
Lily wrote:
It has been a while since I had an astral projection experience. Just recently I had a similar experience like before. Maybe you can give some insight. I was just taking a nap on my couch and began to feel my body vibrating but I snapped out of and nothing else happened, this happened one more time with no outcome.
MiBeloved's Response:
The vibrations occur in the subtle body. These vibrations are caused by the kundalini life force system which is a psychic mechanism which causes the separation of the subtle body from the physical one and also the reunification of the two when one awakens from sleep.
Because the subtle body is interspaced into the physical one and is still synchronized into it, the vibrations appear to be physical to the mind. If however you become more proficient at meditation, you will be able to discern the vibrations as being distinct subtle body phenomena.
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Lily wrote:
The third time I tried to take a nap the vibrations came in and I saw in the distance a triangle with the sky inside of it. That went away and a huge circle of purple light appeared and all of a sudden all colors started to appear in front of me sequentially. I don't remember the order but it was magnificent. As I was staring into this changing of colors it appeared like I was falling through a tunnel straight towards the colors. While falling through this "tunnel" I saw stars swiping by me really fast. At the end of this I saw incoherent images. One was the silhouette of a bulls head. Right after that I saw a baby upside down crying. After that image I heard my husband making noise and I snapped out of it. I'm obviously still a beginner and would like to learn more about astral projections and the third eye.
MiBeloved's Response:
These are real wonderful experiences. This is some chit akash sky of consciousness experiences and some astral world experience, using the third eye and the two eyes of the subtle body.
Beyond the triangle and the huge circle is the chit akash sky of consciousness but most of the other perceptions were done by virtue of a fully open third eye.
The incoherent images were seen by a certain phase of the third eye. Sometimes this happens that the third eye will range over objects in this physical world or various levels of the subtle world and you will not be able to identity what it is doing or what level it perceives.
My advice is to really begin to do meditation on a consistent basis and take notes. Usually if this happens it means that you were a yogini in many of your past lives and now your subtle body is making efforts to resume that practice as energy from those past lives are leaking over into your conscious developed awareness from this life.
You can study our books on meditation to see if we can be of any assistance to you.
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See these books on the right under Publications at this link:
Lily 4 years ago
Hi and thank you for your response. You explained that the incoherent images were being seen by a certain phase in the third eye and that the images can come from somewhere. Is it safe to say that these images weren't really directed for me to see, they just so happen to be something my third eye observed from somewhere. In other words these are not messages directed at me?
Thanks
Lily
MiBeloved 4 years ago
Lily wrote:
Is it safe to say that these images weren't really directed for me to see, they just so happen to be something my third eye observed from somewhere. In other words these are not messages directed at me?
MiBeloved's Response:
Neither idea is safe. It could be that some of the images were directed to you and some were not. Think of a toddler in a kindergarten class. The teacher shows an alphabet chart with large letters and images. By the A letter is the picture of an apple. One toddler thinks that the teacher wants her to eat the apple. Another toddler concludes that the teacher will put an apple in his lunch bag. And yet another toddler who has an exceptional aptitude thinks that the picture of the apple is somehow related to the drawing of the letter A.
But there is yet another kid in the room who never pays attention to anything the teacher puts up, but he listens carefully. He hears this:
A is for apple.
In his little mind, he tries to make sense of that and then thinks back to himself:
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Continued from above…
So what if A is for apple, what a stupid thing for my teacher to say.
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We can say for sure that regardless of the intention of fate, which caused you to see the images, we know for a fact that your third eye operated at that time with full open position and that is unusual.
Our concern now is how to keep that happening frequently and how to eventually develop the capacity to use that as insight, even at times when you are not seeing through the third eye but when it is operating and when you can get supernatural insights from it even when using the physical vision system.
Having a third eye that is open just like that is a huge advantage, if you can convert its perceptions into insight. With that you could advance rapidly in spiritual life. You may tap into your past lives and get information which you knew of before. You could get in contact with great yoga-gurus who are no longer physically present.
Lily 4 years ago
Hi Mibeloved,
Its been a while since I logged on and thank you for your insights with my astral experiences. Since the last time I posted, I've had a couple of third eye experiences, where I see the vortex of purple pink light and in the middle of this vortex there are obscure images. I haven't put much thought to these experiences because they were just too incoherent, however, just today I had one experience that I think I never had before.
It started when I took an unintentional nap while laying in bed in the morning. I thought I was awake but when I tried to get up from my bed I couldn't. This is when I realized I was having an obe. First thing I tried was lifting up my arms and look at them. As I lifted my arms, I noticed a vibration. When I looked at my hands they were invisible to me, I could almost see the outline of my transparent hands. I tried lifting up my upper body but that was near impossible. Either way the experience was pretty awesome! At the time I was happy about what I was seeing because I knew what was happening. As I continued observing my hands, I thought I saw a man peek into my room from my peripheral vision but I wasn't sure and I disregarded it and continued on examining my hands. A few seconds later the man now was standing at the end of my bed, looking at me with curiosity. At this point I panicked and I tried desperately to get back into my physical body. I looked away and when I looked back at the end of my bed the man was no longer standing there, but I was still desperate to return to reality. While trying to return, it appeared that my physical body was not letting my astral body in, I wiggled, I tried lining up my astral hand with my physical hand but still nothing. I was desperate and I don't know how but eventually after many tries I came back to reality.
My questions are, if I have another AP what should be my next step after being able to move my arms? How can I lift myself completely out of my physical body? Why couldn't I return to my physical body when I wanted to? Who was that man in my room?
Thank you in advance, I appreciate your insight.
Best regards,
Lily
MiBeloved 4 years ago
Lily,
Good to hear that you are still making the astral projections.
Please come to our new location (www.inselfyoga.com) for the answer and post your information there.
