Surya P. AYAHUASCA TRIP WITHIN

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Date:  Posted 5 years before Jan 28, 2019

unlimitedsun 5 years ago

Surya P. DMT/AYAHUASCA Experience – Tumultuous peering into the depth!

The other day I travelled far away…

Should you read the following, please do it with an open mind if possible.

PURPOSE:

I have wanted to experiment with a consciousness awareness tool, in order to allow more access or a different access to the subconscious and or other dimensions. It was also encouraging that my spiritual mentor concurred that in the spirit of experimentation or study of the consciousness it was acceptable. He also expressed that a methodical report would be a good idea.

MEDIUM:

Ayahuasca: the combination of a plant and a vine from the Amazon forest.

Dose: 1.5 oz

Appearance: the color is earthy, and taste is an aged, woodsy and markedly tart/ pungent.

SETTING:

The setting was much compromised. I had reached the location of the administration of the substance after 6 hours in the car that includes 2 hours of snail pace traffic.  Also, a fast was required on the day. I arrived at 10 pm exhausted and only ready to crash. However, considering the time constraint I was under I decided to ingest the medication/drug at 11:30, after a quick shower in order to wake and refresh.

IDEAL and PRECOGNISED SETTING:

Ordinary Ayahuasca is taken properly under the supervision of a shaman/healer or at least someone who has an acknowledged familiarity with its usage. Such an individual is purportedly capable of guiding the seekers astraly, telepathically or similar ways through times of difficulty by directly perceiving what they are experiencing. In addition, they provide the décor of ceremony which includes songs called icaros that involve diverse nature spirit elements. These are commonly done as part of a retreat.

Retreats are done in the Amazon forest over around 10 days at the hefty cost of around 1500 USD which may include the round trip, lodging and the especial diet. It is strongly advised to afford the retreat for the experience in order for it to be done right and for obvious concerns to anyone mainly accustomed to the Western or materialistic Paradigm of reality.

Over that week, the seekers get a chance to first rest from their journey and then partake to daily ceremonies as they wish. As a result their count of using the entheogen is normally a positive and encouraging, and would include a variety of details and experiences. There would be a progression of the deepening into the sub levels of consciousness and the depth of penetration of other dimensions; this is not possible from a sporadic isolated usage.

CONTENT:

I was helped with a non-sweetened plain ginger tea, but my stomach was only ready for Aya so I could only take a few sips and kept it close just to have something to drink in case. Immediately after ingestion I noticed that the taste of the tea was sweet.

The actual effects are expected within a couple of hours. But within thirty minutes I felt effects similar to Salvia Divinorium; particularly that of sensing the earth’s magnetic/ electric field all over the body. There was also a keen sense of grogginess as well as the body feeling heavy and difficult to operate; as when deeply asleep.

I personally felt very clear headed at that point until about a couple hours later which was after 1:30 am. However the next morning I was told that at about midnight I was seen standing and having a conversation facing the window, and I don’t have any recollection of this; so loss of time, or maybe sleep walking?

So far I started seeing colors and hues when I would close my eyes, as well as geometric shapes. Nothing was in sharp of bright colors. I could feel my body very light when in a resting and relaxed position, or I was feeling my body at all but rather every cell of it. I was feeling the weight of all the cells my body is composed of.

Any motion would make me want to vomit, as I could feel the Aya making its way very slowly through my system. It was creating great digestive discomfort, but my stomach was empty from the fast and did not have a bowel movement until late the next day. However, it caused me to have my loudest couple of burps.

Since it had been 2 hours, being inexperienced with the drug and unsure of its potency; in addition to the constraints I was working with, I decided that I was going to get there. And, I took a second dose, a little more than half of the initial one. This can sometimes be done by confident seekers. In my case it was an error of judgment under the effects presumably.

Then things became really intense, for the next 4 hours! As much as turning around was a challenge, what to speak of going to the toilet or going to get water. And then a sip of the plain ginger tea was very sweet with an earthy flavor, not as with sugar sweet, but a natural innate sweetness. And, when I realized I needed to drink water and didn’t have it close enough I had to wait two hours to muster the efforts to bring the pitcher.

Initially I did not want to fall asleep, I figured I wouldn’t want to go through all this and miss out. So that might have led me to create a resistance to breaking through the barrier of the deeper consciousness, because I was extenuated it wasn’t easy to stay awake. Hours later, all I wanted was to sleep, and it all over with. However, I wasn’t able to sleep until the next day at night, or twenty four hours later; that is to be expected. I could only rest a bit at a time.

DETAILS of PERCEPTION:

Possibly because of the limitations within which I used Aya many details of all those hours of activity are not recalled.

Shortly after the second dose, I thought there was a helicopter approaching the retreat house of my friends. But the noise came straight at me and right into my mind-field. I wondered if this was just my hearing acting, then it came right to my left ear bud so much so that it got really loud. Then it went towards the center turned here and there and left the other way. It was dead silent in my mind space, and all I could hear the sort of buzzing noise.

I became aware that there were other winged beings on the outside that did not enter my mind. I did not see the being only heard its wings fluttering. After it made its sudden exit from my mind, I remember smiling to myself and thinking “that was amazing!” It had an eerie aspect to it you’d expect from a magical show.

By then there were all kinds of visuals… and I would have moments of clarity as to what I was seeing as far as I recall here and there.

Impressions on the surface of the consciousness were sporadically present as visuals upon initially closing the eyes. Such impressions would be TV or internet images…

•             At one point I thought I was picking up on thoughts of others close by; telepathy.

•             I was shown an important detail of my relation/ communication with my son. And, advised to teach him about energy as a medium of contacting me because he is mature for his seven years.

•             I was shown who had created difficulties for me at my previous administrative position. That didn’t matter to me now, but while I was going through that ordeal a few months ago I did wonder who my enemies were. Although suspicious of my assistant, she was always too cunning to be sure of her intentions.

•             I saw her with her now about 5 years old, but the girl was grown in the vision. I could see how the mother was influencing her and how she became a “terrible” girl, later in life.

•             I saw a scene of issues in Africa. I was too exhausted to appreciate such situations and wished it away, it promptly went away to return later but passed again.

•             At a certain point I was viewing from about the center of the head dreams I had in the past, one was on the right side and the other on the left. I was first surprised to realize that they are past dreams. Then the dreams started to loop around, I felt like that I was going over and over within them. I felt uneasy; I might have been at a certain depth within my subconscious. I had not recorded those dreams because I had not remembered them upon waking up at the time, but now I knew I had these dreams and somehow they felt very familiar and close. Deja-vu seems to have come to mind.

•             I calmed down a bit and the realization came that during these dreams, when I was having them in real time, I was in my nadis; then the scene changed (to my relief).

•             Then, I recall being in a lower part of my body to the left side. But the details are too vague…

•             My thinking was clear, but my mind fuzzy if that makes any sense. So at one point I decided to apply some kriya and went to the back of head. I had a good perception of the space there more than previously, it was dark and silent. Then I attempted to listen to the eternal cosmic sound or naad, but could not hear it. I did not really want to get into practicing any of these while on the effects of Aya, just briefly check. I was not sure of what I was doing and recalled that my goal was to only try the substance and just go through it, a big enough challenge by most measures on your own the first time. And of course I most concerned of it all ending well.

•             On three occasions my eyes welled up with tears. The first time I just dried them thinking nothing of it. By the second time I wondered where that was coming from since I could not trace them to any emotions. Then I realized that the first time I actually felt for a split second a joy. So I understood for good or bad that I was not connected to my emotional center or that I am “too dry” otherwise this was the opportunity for a big release that might have led to more joyfulness. So the physical system works but the emotional support is not supporting it.

•             I remember the last time I sobbed was at the death of my grandfather, because I liked him so much for being such a simple and good human being and for not having seen him for so long, as I was on a different continent. I was in high school then, and since I have understood that death is not a reason for crying. So when should one cry then?

•             I went through three “rebirths”. I faced times of intensity such that I felt withdrawn in my mind and had to think of ways of fixing the situation so I may survive. Then thought that I should breath deep and a hum naturally came after some time it would get better. Again I would need to breathe and a different hum would come to me, I thought that I was humming so loudly that the couple upstairs could hear; they must have been very deep from my core.

I wanted it to just end. Then I thought as in a birthing session the labor pains would come in waves and all that can be done is to go with them, and have trust. So things got better. I had the insight that the plant spirit is guiding me to understand and connect with my body so that it can work more with me, for healing.

There were times of unusual mental clarity when I could think of a descent line of reasoning to a situation. I would not have to problem-solve, the correct reasoning was just there, I guess as when a solution comes in dreams.

Once I managed to make it to the kitchen, under great difficulty to get water it was close to dawn. I could only sip at first, but within an hour I drank half a gallon and as the substance diluted in my system I could feel that the effects were subsiding, that was right at day break and the rosters began to crow from nearby farm houses.

At that point as I try to finally get some rest or sleep naad sound was to a high and sharp level of perception. It has further increased a day later …

RESIDUAL EFFECTS

Now two days later I notice an increase in “brain farts”, I remember some of those annoying songs I used to hear on the radio, and also remember names of people I have not thought of in many years. Had I had more positive exposures this could be a good thing. Those songs that pop up and keep running in the mind can happen (at least to me) but not so often in 48 hours…

Naad sound has for now been sharper and higher in perception, it has also had abrupt changes in perception.

The results of the usage are said to be able to continue for a long time afterwards depending on how well one keeps up the required lifestyle.

LESSONS LEARNED or UNDERSTOOD

Be well disposed, follow the dietary guidelines. Be cautious with the dosage.

Have water to drink right next to you.

You may throw up, or need to pass stools in times of intensity!

Have a sitter (in the very least) in case you need help with something or for reassurance or even assistance in times of intensity.

Although I had prepared certain music compositions including favorite mantras to listen to and as the location was removed my internet broad connection was not allowing sufficient reception for streaming music, neither was the smartphone. This created some anxiety as to facing the experience in the silence of the mind and nothing to hold on to on this first trial. Thankfully the night in out in nature was full of sounds of different creatures, that made up just fine.

CONCLUSION:

Only individuals who are strongly attracted to doing Ayahuasca would want to put themselves through the works of it. And in such cases I believe they should do it. One can wait the moment of death in order to face the self beyond the physical reality or probe through means that are made available and accessible.

Although this experience was not done right given the circumstances of my use I am satisfied of the result. And considering that the initial takes are viewed as just an introduction and a gentle presentation unlike future experiences that may be more involved; I am inclined to going through Yage consumption again.

Of course, I do not recommend taking the chance at being a reckless spiritual ranger as in my case.

Cheers J drink up; to sweet revelations!

MiBeloved 5 years ago

Thanks for this report!

Keep your head on when you subject your body to these substances.

Marcia Beloved 5 years ago

I have had a curiosity about this after watching some videos which were posted on this FORUM. Since I don't have the courage to actually go through with it, hearing of your experience is about as close as I may get.  Thanks for sharing.  Be more careful if there is a next time.  Be rested, allow more time and have someone on hand.  Don't take a fool's risk.

devaPriya Yogini 5 years ago

Thanks for the report and I commend you for your bravery Surya.

Im sure that you already know what you would do different if you are to do it again, that's what experience is for and since  I have zero experience with psychedelics I won't presume to give you any advise.

Some have said it was the second time they did it that they got amazing results.

The woman who was head chaplain at my church when I got there told me of her first and second experience with Aya in Peru.  She said the second time she really enjoyed it and had all this transcendental stuff happening, thinking she was sitting in her chair, when she came out of it the people she was with told her she was on her knees with her arms reaching upward like in praise.  Her face was lifted up toward the sky with a look of sheer joy on her face. They said she was like that there for 7 hours.

Seems pretty miraculous that humans would discover just the right leaf and just the right root to bring together to cause such effects.

:)

manishsony 5 years ago

I do not like to use any drug or supplement to simulate the 3D Holographic effects in our mind. The drug will impact the blood and mind and their working will start to malfunction. Even if the experience is enjoyable it’s not recommended since its malfunction. In these conditions our mind will float and see the images of our own thought dimension not beyond that. Generally we are not aware of our own deep thoughts and memories.

This is only a movie show.

Marcia Beloved 5 years ago

I would like to share an experience I had a few of weeks ago in relation to drug effects.  I hadn't gotten sufficient sleep for a long stretch, was taking several hours to fall asleep at night and not able to get a daytime nap.  On a whim one evening around 8:30 pm, I took some Benadryl generic brand antihistamine with active ingredient of Dipenhydramine HCL, 25 mg. This is a common allergy medicine which I have even observed parents of young children giving to their toddlers at night or at nap time when they want them to definitely fall asleep, as it induces drowsiness as well as combatting allergy effects. Instead of taking the recommended adult dose of 1-2 pills, I took 4 pills, being determined to get the sleep effect.  

Then I went to bed, curled up in semi-fetal posture and watched for effects of sleep to kick in. I did fall asleep about 90 minutes later but in the meanwhile, the psyche incrementally became totally internalized and also incredibly still.  The physical body became stiff like a log and the focus of attention was rigidly absorbed in the psyche head space.   It seemed that even if I wanted to move the gross body, I would not have been able.  I started having visions of purple clouds in the subtle head space.  After about an hour someone entered the room and started talking to me.  I answered back and listened to the conversation as if I were not even a part of it.  I was glued in the mind space giving 90% attention to all that was happening there.  In there I was viewing black and white geometric patterns, very fine in nature with minute divisions. Also continuing to see dense purple energy gyrations. All the while submerged in incredible stillness and maintaining extreme one-pointedness on the visions.

Soon after the body fell asleep and entered the mode of ignorance.  I awakened around 4 am but being very groggy, I skipped exercises.  I got up around 8am and proceeded normally about my day, dragging myself along in an awful grog, not becoming alert until early afternoon.

I reflected on this experience figuring this was a very mild and brief experience as compared to taking psycho-active drugs.  Although I got the intended rest, it came at a price, in that I had great difficulty coming out of drowsiness.  I was happy to have had the visions, but most importantly, I recalled the incredible psyche stillness.  I thought, "This is what I'm aiming for in meditation.  I need to learn to reach this absolute anchoredness within the mind, being able to sit back in the viewing seat and watch whatever appears without reacting or getting involved in it."