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Sunlight Astral Body

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Date:  Posted 7 years before Jul 23, 2018

 

MiBeloved 7 years ago

Exercises this morning lasted a little longer than usual. Rishi Singh showed up about 40 minutes into the exercise when I was about to finish the session. He then said that I should do another 20 minutes since he felt that the subtle body was not infused sufficiently.

 

Just before he arrived, I managed to direct kundalini into the center of the trunk of the body when it was spreading upwards. This meant that kundalini did not go through the customary and recommended sushumna central channel in the spine. Instead it leaves the base chakra and courses through the central trunk of the body. One has to contract the muscles around the spine and those in the chest, to cause kundalini to course upwards in that way.

 

Previously during the night in the astral world, I was speaking to several persons and just before rising for about one hour, I was with a monk who is now deceased and also with another person from the religious sect that monk was an official of. They were both arrested in the astral world by some persons who had grievances against them.

 

The one who is still using a material body, would of course escape as soon as his gross body would require the subtle one to synchronize into it but the other one who has no physical form might remain in the prison where those people were keeping them.

 

After the exercises, I sat to meditate. Rishi Singh went over with me some details about the social life of a yogi, stressing that a yogi who feels that he will fix the social situation in this world is more or less wasting time. He said this, “They have to understand that the entities who are biased towards material existence and to the games that people play in the social world will not be convinced of the spiritual truth of reincarnation and cannot on their own come up with a solution to the problems of the world. In fact the material existence and the social construction of the world will continue indefinitely because that is the nature of the karmic mix-ups.

 

“A yogi has to know that his or her main business is to side step all this sociology which is conducted temporarily. Once you get a body, you have some obligation in the social history of mankind. Take care of that efficiently but do not feel that you can change or reform the social ways of everything. That is not possible because the way the world was before you took a body is the exactly way the world will remain after you are willingly or unwillingly deprived of the body.

 

“When we study the Bhagavad Gita and the life of the Pandavas who were personal friends and agents of the Almighty Sri Krishna, we see that even though they fought for good principles, still in the end, things began to regress and they had to leave it all alone. That means that you do your best in the service of righteous life style and you know deep inside that in fact you are wasting your time and you will not bring about any permanent change in anything in the material world.

 

“Therefore work diligently for your spiritual life, do your best in the social field and leave the matter there. There is no point in running up against the people who lack spiritual vision and who are always siding with blind materialistic insight. Spiritual life is a like a narrow corridor and social life is like things seen through openings in the corridor. So not allow those things to distract you in such a way as to cause you to leave the spiritual corridor. Do not go over into any of those windows into the social world and cause yourself to be projected out of the corridor of spiritual discipline. Each yogi must take steps to protect the self.”

 

During the meditation session, I reached naad on the right side near the ear but a little high up in about 1 second after sitting to meditate. Rishi Singh was nearby and he sent an idea that I should tell the yogis practicing that they should try their best to comply with Patanjali. Rishi said this, “Yogananda and others stressed meditation on the third eye but you do not get that instruction from Patanjali. Why is that? Did Patanjali not know of the brow chakra? The reason why is this: The real problem is not the brow chakra. It is the thought generation organ which in the Gita is listed as buddhi. Patanjali did his best, in fact no one else in the history of yoga lessons in India, went to such details describing this organ.

 

Patanjali nailed it down with his description of its functions, listing five functions. So even if a yogi cannot see that psychic organ, the yogi can locate it by finding the location where those five functions take place and become evident to the self in the head of the subtle body.

 

Focus on that organ and keep it from generating what it normally does. If you do not see it that is okay, but still you can work on it as instructed by Patanjali. Have faith in Patanjali. Do not go about doubting Patanjali and do not make stupid statements that perhaps Patanjali did not get it.

 

There is not one single successful yogi in India who disrespects Patanjali, so take a hint from that if you really want success in yoga. Study Patanjali over and over until you become familiar with what he proposes and practice to achieve what he described as the accomplishments of yogis.

 

After about one hour of meditation, the astral body separated from the physical one but the astral one kept the lotus posture which the physical one was in. I realized that it had floated up to a high table which was in another dimension but I did not recall that it was the astral form and so when it began to float about I was a bit worried that it might fall.

 

However when it resumed fusion into the physical body, I realized that it had entered one of the sunlight dimensions in which the subtle body itself is made of sunlight and the objects, there in that place, are all made out of light. This means the vegetation, the landscape and everything as contrasted to this world where most of the solid objects are made out of physical substance.

 

I did not see any other persons in that other dimensions because the location I was in was devoid of other beings.

 

Dear Beloved 7 years ago

Do you think that the sun has been settled by other beings at this point?  You did not notice anyone in this encounter.  What sort of folks would be living on the sun?

 

MiBeloved 7 years ago

In that experience I was using a sunlight body but not on the sun planet. It was in a dimension somewhere else, in a world that is parallel to and near this earthly situation.

 

There are people living on the sun right now and they have been there for millions of years, using durable bodies that last that long. Those bodies are made out of nuclear energy. The problem for a yogi is getting there and staying there once he or she gets there since usually a person using an earthly body is earth-bound because of his or her natural attachments to the earthly culture and process. In fact the attachments are that of kundalini.

 

Even if the core-self is not attached to the earthly life, that does not matter. In the final analysis if kundalini is attached, no matter if one believes in God or not, no matter if one attains this consciousness or that consciousness or not, one will not be able to leave the earthly plane of existence and will again come out crying from a woman’s uterus.

 

Philosophy and even meditation capability does not free one from such a fate if the kundalini is not completely purged of its tendency for earthly forms in some species of life in this type of gross existence.

 

The nice thing about that though is that when one takes the new body, one forgets all about the past life or lives, and one gets crazy again as an innocent little infant, crying, laughing and so on, so one does not have to recall the past and deal with the spiritual failure. In a new body one shifts into a new mind, or so it seems and so one is ignorant of the whole matter.

 

Back in the 1970s, I used to astral project to the sun planet but as time would have it that ability was lost. There are however many persons living in many other dimensions in the space between this planet and the sun. They also use sunlight bodies even though they are not on the sun itself.

 

Jesus Christ for instance is in the earthly atmosphere all the time but he uses a sunlight body.

 

In the Vedic books like Bhagavad Gita, there is a name for the chief solar deity as Surya Narayana. Such people do exist but in another dimension, not physically.

 

Evidence that the sun is a habitable place, is there in the fact that all the energy we use on this planet has in fact come from the sun. Daylight, all of it comes from the sun. In fact if you were to remove the sun our life on this planet would be finished in an instant. We take it for granted but we have a serious dependence on the sun. It is also a psychological dependence and our minds need energy from the sun just to maintain a positive mood.

 

Some meditators are of the view that we can create a negative or positive mood and by our own efforts be miserable or happy in this life, but actually the energy we use for either a positive or negative outlook is sourced from the sun and moon. It is not that we are independent to an absolute degree but our ignorance of where these energies come from keep us from understanding the dependence.

 

But that is just about the physical body, what about the subtle one? Is the subtle one taking energy from the sun? How much is it taking? What would be its status if the sun were to shut down?

 

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      Answer to: “Is the subtle one taking energy from the sun?

       

      From living in upper northern hemisphere, where the environment could go for days with barely to visible sunlight energy, and doing kriya pranayama infusion, I had concluded back then that the subtle body takes in energy from the sun. Generally speaking that is the idea, in my experience a connection with higher mood and positive or elevated functioning in routine living was also evidenced.

       

      When practice was sufficiently performed to allow for cellular life force arousal, in particular to the extent of some pranic vision, the association within the spyche with the subtle light energy for me always had galvanizing effect even though I may not have seen the sunlight for a couple of days or more on end. I had deducted that the subtle body had a very dfferent affinity/ connection/ relationship to the subtle sun energy, than the physical body to the visible sunrays.

       

      That also let me to decide that religious as well as spiritual considerations of the position of the physical sun in the sky could be formalities, albeit important and even fundamental regarding our central and elemental energy dispensing astral star’s personal deity, Surya Naryana. Universally speaking the sun’s energy can still be accessed even in the dead of the night, with a significant  caveat: eclipsing the Moon star is non-viable to Earthlings and a lunatic (no-pun intended) idea to its person deity God Chandra (especially, as known as Soma Deva).

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