Subtle body carries Resentment Energies

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Date:  Posted 3 years before Apr 18, 2016

MiBeloved 3 years ago

Due to some negative encounters last night with both spiritual aspirants and downright materialistic persons, I wanted to share with the student yogis, that resentments are not washed away by wishful thinking, positive thinking or even being fair to others.

In the Mahabharata, as great a person as Yudhishthira had to deal with resentments. In his own time, and by the prevailing Vedic standards, he was rated as righteousness (Dharma) personified.

At the end of the battle of Kurukshetra, Yudhishthira freaked out when he was overcome with resentments which hit him from the fatherless families, who were survivors of men who were killed in the war.

Yudhishthira, we are told, fought for a righteous cause.

There is also the example of Rama, the son of Dashratha. In the Valmiki Ramayana, his story begins when Narada presented Rama as the Personification of virtue. In the epic there is so much evidence about Rama's righteous conduct that one has to really be a critic to find fault with him. In fact his dharmic posture was so rigid that people point a finger at him as a man who abused his wife, first when he rejected her after she stayed as a prisoner of her kidnapper and second when some Ayodhyans compared Rama to a man who takes a woman back who was touched by another man.

In modern times, we have many examples of gurus who claimed to be this or that but who were found to be deviant to some moral rule. These gurus, regardless of their innocence or guilt in the matter, had to deal with resentments. Some of them lost their guruship as a result and others held on to it by a thin wire while pretending they were not affected by the hostility.

Buddha, the master of ahimsa, was himself accused of violently breaking up families when he attracted many youths from their parental environment. Many parents complained to Buddha’s father. Subsequently Buddha agreed to his father’s stipulation that no minor son of anyone would be taken into monkhood without the expressed permission of the parents.

I wrote a book called Spiritual Master, in which I laid out the general profile of a guru and discussed the negative issues which gurus often face. My advice about resentment is this:

Avoid situations and actions in which people will hurl resentment towards you. One such place where this can happen is this forum. Any type of exposure, admittance or opinion, could be the cause of resentment being hurled at you.

If resentment enters your mind, then deal with it according to your advanced or mediocre level as a yogi.

Deal with resentments in dreams, astral projections and also in your psychic communications.

Realize that resentment can bog you down and retard spiritual advancement.

Since the messenger who takes news to the king that his army was defeated, may be killed by order of the king, do not carry the message unless you first prepare yourself for the trauma. And if you decide not to carry the message, then go away to a foreign country and keep running, because the king’s men will be coming for you.

Finally by all means avoid situations where there will be resentment even spiritual groups, ashram, tirthas, pilgrimage, temples. And in your ordinary dealings with materialistic people, try to side step disagreements with anyone.

Alfredo 3 years ago

Very appropriate! Thanks.

AspiringSiddha 3 years ago

I would guess revealing resentment/ talking about it to that person about it would not be good??

MiBeloved 3 years ago

As yogis we have to act in a way which facilitates yoga advancement and which will bring us closer to our yoga gurus. There is no other priority. Everything else, even if we are forced to do it, even if we are circumstantially pressured to do it, is nonsense. This means that we must do some nonsense from time to time, but we must also know that is what it is, while we are doing it.

The whole material world was condemned by Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita and still the same Krishna was telling Arjuna to get involved when Arjuna wanted to run away from it and realized that it was all amounting to anguish.

If we look at Gautama Buddha we see that he also thought that the material world was anguish and his whole message was to declare that no matter what it is, it will pan out to anguish in the end.

And there again we see that Buddha had to settle into a righteous responsible life style even after his enlightenment.

Arjuna had to participate in this, even though it is all going to go down in the end. So you do what you must do on the social end but at the same time, you know that it is a dead end.

The cause of resentment being directed to me is not the person who resents, but it is rather my presence in a certain environment. Let us look at this in terms of chemistry.  If you have some sulphuric acid in a glass beaker, then the chemical will sit there and not do anything. There it does not react. But if you drop some material into the beaker like a piece of aluminum say or like say part of a dead fish, then all hell will break loose.

So it means that resentment is taking place in chemicals but only under certain conditions of presence.

Thus I have to see myself as a cause for these resentments and the solution is to beat the hell out of there.

By exiting from a certain environment, all resents which would be directed to one in that place, will no longer find one.

There is a saying:

Out of sight is out of mind.

A yogi has to see that what he needs to do is to get out of the environments where reactive elements arise. If you are a piece of aluminum, crying about what the sulphuric acid will do to you if it gets near you, is useless.

Instead you should make a plan not to meet with it under any circumstances. That is possible if you can get out of its environment.

Thus as a matter of maturity, so long as we have to be in a certain environment, we should act in a way to decrease the resentments unless we are acting under coverage of the Universal Form of Krishna.

Arjuna was resented for what he did as a warrior at Kurukshetra, but since he was under Krishna’s insurance policy, those resentments passed through him and reached Krishna who is the ultimate antiseptic being. But on our own, we should do nothing to attract resentments, otherwise these will harass us during meditation and lessen the effect of spiritual practice.

Jettins 3 years ago

Michael Wrote: Deal with resentments in dreams, astral projections and also in your psychic communications.

Jettins’ Reply:

Perfect.

I had an experience that I called “Learning to break free from illusions – changing psychological profile”, #703 from yesterday. It’s interesting that at one point near the end I said to the dream character “Reveal your true purpose”, and then the character morphed into another being becoming a knowledgeable guide. I woke up but then was able to re-enter. The being was there again and then he injected a movie like vision and said telepathically “the things I went through to change my psychological profile”. I thought it was very interesting because he showed me similarities in his experience projected in a movie that where similar to the lucid experience I was having a moment before.

I was receiving anger and hostility from the police near the end causing me to ask the dream character to revel it's true purpose and cool down a possible confrontation. Either I psychically sensed the resentment of the police state with awakened individuals like me, or I am angry at the police state projecting it as a mirror effect, or both. Either way it doesn't matter why because in the end I am the one that needs the psychological adjustment to neutralize it's effects. I will explain more near the end of this post.

In experience #704 from today called “Psychological Adjustments in Preparation to return to Higher Realms” the same theme continued. I had a series of short story like dreams. These dreams appeared to be clearly designed for me to see the effect of my thoughts and behavior in a variety of negative influences. In short, the short stories had 3 parts. Cause then effect and then understanding or realization. I get chills when I think about how clear this was. I woke up from those non-lucid dreams then quickly re-entered becoming aware of my state. It was a classic vibrational OBE. I stood up from the bed very lucid as there was no break in consciousness. I noticed the dimension was one of those that can easily be teleported or glitched out from.

A little girl about 10 years old was holding my hand. I asked her to “take me to a beautiful place”, then she smiled and nearly loses her form out of happiness that I asked.  Instead of taking me to another Astral Realm she lets go of my hand and starts to dance. Then I dance duplicating her dance move, then she makes another and another, I do the same. Quickly another person showed up and started to dance and then I woke up. I thought it was very appropriate. I wanted to go to a beautiful place and then the guide shows me that I need to change my state of being or psyche, clever guide indeed.

I would suggest not taking dreams to heart to the point they may affect you, if possible. It is a natural process that everyone is entitled to go through to release emotions. Do not fear them or this may cause an unexpected problem to resolve later on as you go, unfortunately. Neither acids nor materials will stay still forever will be the lesson, but wishful thinking is still allowed. The material and acid should instead attempt to change their existing properties to be ever closer to inert so they no longer can affect each other destructively intentional and/or unintentional, a new property or quality of being then emerges caused by the psychological adjustments.  I think this could be referred to as true sovereignty of our psyche, free from influences that can alter us negatively. The way of some of the higher beings indeed.

The police state can be the acid and I am the material, or vice versa becomes irrelevant (if I may barrow your analogy). The guides will be watching to offer assistance to those that become prepared to learn this and other things. If not, It will be another little peculiarity about the nature of things the individual will go through (or remember), so that they may slowly figure it out. Easier said than done, this applies to me as well. I think this is what my guides where saying to me yesterday and today, this post making me think about it some more. Maybe they where hoping I mentioned it here too, do not know. Just my opinion and may only apply to me do not know.

I feel I am still preparing so I analyze my dreams and experience as they come, so take this as the thoughts of a novice. Not often I try to create or incubate a certain type of lucid experience in advance, I would rather investigate as I find myself in one to see how I can help or what I can learn. One thing will lead to another.

This forum is great! How else could I learn and understand some things if things didn't become perturbed from time to time?

Alfredo 3 years ago

Holding resentments is basically a flaw of character. It is one of my main character defects.

As you wisely wrote to me once: resentments can be the bane of the yogi.

When holding a resentment one gives up precious energy, which is now transferred as power to the circumstance or person being resented, that now holds one hostage psychically until the resentment is resolved.

The resentment can be viewed as an eddy swirling endlessly in the mind during meditation, and it ruins the quality of the meditation, obviously.

There are individuals that thrive in sucking up others' energies. They are called Vital Vampires. They vampirize others' vital energy and are experts at triggering the responses necessary for that to occur, this is called "pushing your buttons". This is the same principle that makes a weekend with my mother a grueling affair.

The yogi must become proficient at recognizing, and avoiding, these circumstances, in general "people, places, and things".

It is like the example you once used that occurred to you when you travelled to visit relatives and found yourself in a shopping mall, in the middle of very mundane affairs, and then you exclaimed into your mind: "crazy yogi, what are you doing here?".

Jettins 3 years ago

Ok, I see what you're saying.

MiBeloved 3 years ago

From Linked in:

Colleen Dick: The old "power struggle?"

"Vicious cycle?"

Resentment only has hold on you if you remain focused in the past.

Some suggestions: disengage; open some space; use compassion, look forward.

MiBeloved’s Response:

Colleen,

You wrote:

Resentment only has hold on you if you remain focused in the past.

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This is not true in my experience in the practice of higher yoga but it is true outside of the insight of that practice. In a book called the Anu Gita which I translated and which is part of the Mahabharata literature and also is actually the conclusion of the famous Bhagavad Gita, there is detailed explanation of what happens with the effect energies of our actions long after those are committed, in the afterlife and in future births.

But from my research and observations in higher yoga, when reincarnation is figured in and when individual self liability is figured in, then the equation which you stated above has no standing.

But of course as I said already it is a true equation on a certain level. So let me be clear that it is not being denied or challenged. In terms of reincarnation, fate and infinite time that equation would be written in this way:

So long as you are in the environment where it can be activated, the resentment of others towards you has a hold on you even if you do not remain focused in the past. It will operate in your fate at fate’s convenience.

This also applies to the so called selfless acts (seva in Hindi). If I do selfless acts, nature will see to it that I am repaid for the act even if I am the greatest most sincere philanthropist (sadhu) or most extreme renunciant of results (tyagi/sannyasi). It will return to me the results of both my selfless and selfish acts.

But there is a very interesting disclaimer made by Krishna in the Gita, which may be taken into consideration:

न कर्तृत्वं न कर्माणि

लोकस्य सृजति प्रभुः ।

न कर्मफलसंयोगं

स्वभावस्तु प्रवर्तते ॥५.१४॥