Practice Reports Surya - 08/12/2012 to 8/19/2012
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Date: Posted 5 years before Aug 30, 2017
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Sun 08/12/2012
I was able to practice forcefully this AM, even with some zest. Health let up compared to yesterday.
Kundalini rose only mildly in the normal standing posture with locks.
Meditation was better and naad was tuned into, but it was not any intense.
Ordinary circumstance dreams recalled.
Comment:
The lust factor has been manageable. For me this can only be done with if and only if both the diet and practice are favorably maintained with command.
The lighter, livelier and more positive the diet, and the more intense the practice the better. Intense rising of kundalini makes some kind of marked difference as well.
Things would be significantly better if association at least through the scriptures (particularly Michael's books) could be accomplished. I have experienced that in the distant past.
Alfredo 5 years ago
Great Surya! Congratulations.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
unlimitedsun wrote:
Meditation was better and naad was tuned into, but it was not any intense.
Ordinary circumstance dreams recalled.
MiBeloved's Response:
Expect that any non-yogic association will produce a downgrade in practice. Yogic association from advanced persons will produce an upgrade in practice. This includes mental association or psychic association as well as physical association.
Teach the mind how to make physical association with non-yogic people, superficial, so that the mind does not take in very strong impressions when in contact with such persons, at the workplace, or in the home or in any other location.
There are so many things which the student must master himself or herself. God will not do it for you. Neither will the yoga guru. Advice will be provided, example will be set, and methods demonstrated but that is about all you are going to get from God and guru. Guru cannot lift anybody up permanently unless that effort is reinforced by the students own sincere endeavor. It is a do-or-die thing. You will hear students complain that God or Guru does very little but the same students are reluctant to put the best foot forward in practice. And yet, if you follow a student around for say a week you will discover that in certain areas of the life, that student is putting the best foot forward, is making the maximum effort but it is not in the area of meditation practice.
So why is this?
Why does the student cry out for help from God or guru, when the real problem is not the lack of such assistance but the student’s unwillingness to exert in the direction of progress and when the student does have the power to practice but uses that power in another area of the lifestyle?
The answer to this is that the student is under more than one influence and a particular influence prevails and uses the student’s exertion power to further its own ends.
Being under the influence of a Yoga Guru is not everything. It is only part of the range of influences which prevail over the student. In the privacy of one’s mind, of one’s emotions, of one’s psyche, one should investigate and see what it is which confiscates and uses one’s exertion power.
Once you identity the culprit, then you can at least be fair in judging the help of God and guru.
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In your own case of yoga practice for instance, it has been some years now since you were introduced to this breath infusion practice and to the way of looking at the Bhagavad Gita to take help from Sri Krishna in the practice, and yet you have hesitated and stalled for many years.
Writing about your meditation practice has been a long neglected event which now you are trying to come to terms with. Subsequently, it caused me to also pay attention to your practice. Because you are investing in yourself, I am now compelled to use some of my valuable time to contribute to your spiritual enterprise.
If you did not make the investment, then I would be off the hook and that is all well and good for me, because filling these responses takes time, consideration and energy. But the point is that you were the cause of your not getting these advisories because you were not filing reports.
In so many instances God cannot help and Guru can do even less, simply because you are not investing in yourself. Your action is the one which may be cutting off divine grace and guru contribution to your spiritual venture.
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Ordinary dreams mean that there is a run over from the physical non-yogic associations into the astral travel at night when the body sleeps. This is an alert to inform you that the momentum energy from those non-yogic associations is so strong that these influences dominate the life of the subtle body in the astral world at night. So you can work on reducing the strength of these associations.
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unlimitedsun wrote:
The lust factor has been manageable. For me this can only be done with if and only if both the diet and practice are favorably maintained with command.
MiBeloved's Response:
This is true to a certain extent and to a certain extent only. Whatever you eat certainly will form into sex hormones and these will provoke lusty expression and lusty attraction.
However even if you get your diet under control, so long as the subtle body has the tendency to store energy for sexual expression, it will be inclined to lust. Even one grain of sugar can cause the tongue to remember all previous sugar binges and drive the psyche into a cycle of sugar addiction again.
Never think that only a little lust is safe and only much of it is dangerous. A little is the friend of much and therefore a little is the gateway to much.
Before I took this present body, in my last physical body in India, I completely curbed lust but when I took this body, just by contact with the people from whom I got this form, I again resumed lusty interest with such a force, that it took over 40 years to come to terms with it.
Recently someone was asking about why it took so long. Well in the Gita Arjuna asked about it in this way and look at the answer he got:
Arjuna said: Then explain, O family man of the Vṛṣṇis, by what is a person forced to commit an evil unwillingly, just as if he were compelled to do so? (3.36)
The Blessed Lord said: This force is craving. This power is anger. The passionate emotion is the source. It has a great consuming power and does much damage. Recognize it as the enemy in this case. (3.37)
As the sacrificial fire is obscured by smoke, and similarly as a mirror is shrouded by dust or as an embryo is covered by skin, so a man's insight is blocked by the passionate energy. (3.38)
The discernment of educated people is adjusted by their eternal enemy which is the sense of yearning for various things. O son of Kuntī, the lusty power, is as hard to satisfy as it is to keep a fire burning. (3.39)
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Mon 08/13/2012
Most irregular trends. Practice this AM was quite the challenge. My body felt still as a board. Stretches were not only challenging but near impossible, they were also uncomfortable and even painful. Meditation went on longer since I did not/ could not dwell in postures longer; I had more time to meditate prior to getting ready for outside world.
No breathing was done, neither was kundalini solicited (locks...).
Dreams consisted of an episode involving my son and another of live bee pollen(!). Bee pollen is simply one of the nutritional supplements I use.
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Tue 08/14/2012
It’s a seesaw. Today I was able to do some practice. Stretches although not satisfactory allowed the routine to be followed. It is only by the end of my session that I was able to feel loosened.
Some breathing was done, and kundalini arose.
Meditation allowed for naad frequency to be heard but not to be focused on.
The mind has been very unstable and generally unfocused since quite some time. And, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel at this moment.
I will keep attempting, even if the real issues are not going to be easily tackled any time soon.
Passages of at least 3 different dreams were recalled from the night. They consisted of different mundane contexts.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Just keep in mind that all these social concerns will vanish for the time being when you lose this specific body.
Then when you get another body in the same or in another family, things would have changed and then you will again get involved and will again have to struggle with the practice.
See this all the time and it will help you to resist a little more.
Pool 5 years ago
A yogi who was very advanced in previous lives, is it more likely he would catch up very quick with Breath Infusion and continue his progress from where it stopped previous life, or is it still possible that in this life he would have some hard times catching up with the whole progress?
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Pool wrote:
A yogi who was very advanced in previous lives, is it more likely he would catch up very quick with Breath Infusion and continue his progress from where it stopped previous life, or is it still possible that in this life he would have some hard times catching up with the whole progress?
MiBeloved's Response:
Some yogis are able to catch up some are not unless they do the austerities all over again in the new life, from scratch.
It hinges on the amount of contamination one picks up in the interim period in the astral world and also what happens in the birth environment. Usually the digression occurs in the birth environment when he absorbs the influence of his Mom and Dad and their association. He must also deal with negative influences in schools and elsewhere.
One can make an assessment of the degree of contamination by trying to go back to the past life in the subconscious. If one is unable to do this, then it means that the contamination is major and one will have to really dig up to attain the required progress.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Wed 08/15/2012
Today I was able to afford some deep stretches to satisfaction.
Breathing was decent. Kundalini arose somewhat powerfully upon solicitations (applications of locks following breaths of fire).
Meditation allowed for naad frequency to be heard but not be focused on. The mind as of lately has been very resistant to focusing.
No dream recalled.
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Thu 08/16/2012
Today I was able to afford some deep stretches to satisfaction. Tendons at the back of the legs were giving out distinct tension, but were pulled through.
The gluts are again faced. Half lotus is now assumed in meditation; since many years I have not been able to resume full lotus.
Breathing was decent. Kundalini arose powerfully at the beginning of the session (1/4) in a knee bent laying on back posture.
The intensity kept on, I released the locks because it was getting uncomfortable.
I took a minute to "recenter" and did not apply locks again since I was feeling light headed and uneasy.
Meditation allowed for naad frequency to be heard and listened to a bit. A situation at work let up a bit, allowing my mind to be less agitated.
A portion of a dream was recalled.
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Fri 08/17/2012
Today I was able to afford some quite deep stretches to satisfaction. Tendons at the back of the legs were giving out distinct tension, but were pulled through. The gluts are again faced.
Breathing was decent. Kundalini arose at the beginning of the session (1/4) in a knee bent laying on back posture.
I apply the locks after very forceful breath while in the sitting posture and then apply the locks as I bent backwards.
I appreciate that it is successful since there is no concern of falling down.
Kundalini again was solicited again in the classic standing posture, but arose minimally.
Meditation allowed for naad to be tuned to somewhat. Half lotus is now assumed in meditation with some cushioning; since many years I have not been able to resume full lotus. Shortly after starting to meditate a fuzzy bluish dot appeared in the center ahead of me slightly to the left. It was brief, and disappeared in less than 10 seconds. Then after about another 5 seconds two of them appeared first one more to the left, then the one to the right a bit dimmer. Again briefly.
No dream came to mind, but things are such that I am only thinking about it as I am writing. I should make more of an effort to remind myself to recall upon waking up even before turning around.
Remarks:
I am again starting to feel "my yoga zone", this is when upon starting I feel immersed and yarn to go deeper. There is positivity and encouragement.
And at times I would wish to have more time. I am not yet experiencing the somewhat joy I once upon a time felt from doing the practice.
My stretches still carry a certain level of pain that perhaps acts as hindrance. I am still on a heavy medication of which muscular tightness is a side effect. The doctor might yet renew my refills for another month at least. Quite naturally for me there will be a tug war with the system to give in to my desire to pull and stretch.
A practice outside of my "zone" means that I was feeling the energy of distraction and discouragement present, and it indicates a problem.
This is not "inself yoga" as coined by Michael, because I practice is still only external, for being mostly focused on the physical without any subtly insight. I am not able to go internally, I would need too many adjustments in my life for that, certainly more than I can tackle at this time in my life.
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Sat 08/18/2012
This AM I made it the yoga mat, tried the start with the preliminary warm up, I was feeling so ill that I couldn't carry out the warm up. No yoga, no meditation.
I felt better later in the day but social pressure had taken over, so I was not able to make up.
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Sun 08/19/2012
This AM I feel better, and was again able to do some yoga. I did not get into my "yoga zone". The routine was out of sequence and not flowing.
Breathing although the main aspect did not really happen.
Yesterday and today are the end of the Muslim fast called Ramadan and it is a big celebration.
With the presence of my mother, and feeling responsible to play a part, my schedule is out of whack for this occasion.