Practice Report - Alfredo D - Monday, 10/8/2012
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Date: Posted 5 years before Oct 07, 2017
Alfredo 5 years ago
ॐ नमः शिवाय
AM Practice
Woke up for practice at 5:00 (Brahma-muhurta). Quality of practice was good. It consisted of 90 minutes in a motel room with the air conditioning off and the window open.
Svadhyaya: Continue study of 2nd Chapter of “Bhagavad Gita Explained” named “Divine State”.
Dedication: Practice dedicated to Lord Shiva after mantra (Om Namah Shivaya) and incantation.
Breath Infusion: 45 minutes of Bhastrika prânâyâma infusing breath on the navel. Emphasis was on floor asanas. Kundalini arose forcefully towards the end, hurling me to the floor (which I arrested by kneeling) and producing a gold out where the whole head was filled with golden light while the sense of “I” was totally lost for perhaps 20 seconds.
Question 1: In the past I have experienced in these cases a black out…is this gold out of a “higher quality” somehow?
Meditation: 45 minutes meditation on the back of the head in shavasana (cadaver position = reclining). Most of the meditation consisted of concentration on the area of the back of the head. Naad sound was heard all along. Effort in meditation seems to be paying off as I can sustain the concentration (Dharana) on the back of the head now for a few minutes at a time without effort (Dhyana), so the goal now is to, little by little, elongate this into Samadhi (According to Vivekananda’s number from his “Raja Yoga”, at least 12 minutes of continuous Dhyana are needed).
Question 2: In a previous comment, after the “dining room” vision, you indicated that this was a glimpse of Samadhi…how can one know when the elongation of Dhyana enters into Samadhi? Are there any tell-tale signs or landmarks to watch for?
During the meditation, the question by Pranajogi about why Kundalini goes up to the head primarily and not down into other areas of the subtle body, surfaced. In cases like mine, it seems to follow the “path of least resistance”, like when water spills and fills spaces by gravity, it seems that Kundalini once hit by breath in the navel, and facing the common locks, would follow the path of least resistance and enter the largest Nadi Sushumna, instead of forcing itself into other nadis of the lower body that, more than likely, are still blocked.
Question 3: Is this assumption correct?
Dream recall: Two dream recalled, one of them vividly (non-lucid). It seems that the Brunton’s technique, which I have been following for 2 days, indeed improves dream recalling and lucidity. The dream recalled was of similar theme to the physical life, of cataclysmic import whereby flooding was occurring in a coastal zone, and I was part of it.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Alfredo wrote:
Kundalini arose forcefully towards the end, hurling me to the floor (which I arrested by kneeling) and producing a gold out where the whole head was filled with golden light while the sense of “I” was totally lost for perhaps 20 seconds.
Question 1: In the past I have experienced in these cases a black out…is this gold out of a “higher quality” somehow?
MiBeloved's Response:
Gold out means that you are entered what is called the brahman effulgence (brahmananda) Black out means that you entered the mula prakriti state which is the dissolution of manifested matter into nothingness.
The loss of the sense of “I” occurs because the rim of the core-self makes contact with trillions of other core-selves which are in the brahman effulgence in undifferentiated consciousness which is sat, and where there is no chit or spiritual objectivity. There is existence but no objective understanding of it. There one self does not know where it begins or ends even though it is limited nevertheless.
When the chit feature surfaces in this state, when the being is aware of itself and also of the blissful (ananda/sat-chit-ananda) nature of its isolated self (kaivalyam), then the self has spiritual objectivity. Isolated means being isolated from the psychic adjuncts which causes the self to shift down to the prakriti consciousness.
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Alfredo wrote:
During the meditation, the question by Pranajogi about why Kundalini goes up to the head primarily and not down into other areas of the subtle body, surfaced. In cases like mine, it seems to follow the “path of least resistance”, like when water spills and fills spaces by gravity, it seems that Kundalini once hit by breath in the navel, and facing the common locks, would follow the path of least resistance and enter the largest Nadi Sushumna, instead of forcing itself into other nadis of the lower body that, more than likely, are still blocked.
Question 3: Is this assumption correct?
MiBeloved's Response:
This assumption is correct. In addition, kundalini itself made or designed the sushumna nadi system, so it does what is instinctive to it.
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Alfredo wrote:
Question 2: In a previous comment, after the “dining room” vision, you indicated that this was a glimpse of Samadhi…how can one know when the elongation of Dhyana enters into Samadhi? Are there any tell-tale signs or landmarks to watch for?
MiBeloved's Response:
Samadhi is both known and unknown. In other words in some samadhis one has objective awareness and in some one has objective awareness only after the samadhi occurred where there is a slight impression of it but not a full understanding.
The way to get a grip on this is to carefully and painstakingly over time, over months if not years, make a study of the shift from dharana to dhyana and then from dhyana into samadhi.
The best thing to do is to get away from the word samadhi because just hearing the word, just sounding it in the mind causes the mind to get jumpy and stupid. This is because certain yogis have idolized samadhi and cause a great misunderstanding and an unjustified excitement about it. Instead of thinking of samyama as being dharana into dhyana into samadhi; think of it as dharana into dhyana into long-lasting relaxed dhyana. This will banish the excitement which the word samadhi causes and this will result in objectivity to be able to know when the effortless contact with a higher level will be sustained.
In time the student yogi will know if there will be a samadhi as soon as he or she sits down to meditate. Twenty gallons of gasoline will take an automobile for a certain distance only. If the motorist knows what is in the tank, he can relax. There is no need to get excited. The duration of deep meditation is already potentially there as soon as one sits to meditate after doing breath infusion.
In time one can tell by the feel of it as soon as one sits, if the dhyana will be sustained and if it will be then that is samadhi and one will then be in a more relaxed state and will be able to psych out objectively what happens.
Alfredo 5 years ago
Thank you very much!
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Last two paragraphs from the original post:
In time the student yogi will know if there will be a samadhi as soon as he or she sits down to meditate. Twenty gallons of gasoline will take an automobile for a certain distance only. If the motorist knows what is in the tank, he can relax. There is no need to get excited. The duration of deep meditation is already potentially there as soon as one sits to meditate after doing breath infusion.
In time one can tell by the feel of it as soon as one sits if the dhyana will be sustained and if it will be then that is samadhi and one will then be in a more relaxed state and will be able to psych out objectively what happens.
Suryananda's Leveled Practice Expansion:
At my level of practice, say beginner to lower intermediary a more targeted observation or detection regards the atmosphere within the psyche during breath infusion sessions.
Upon adequate infusion of the psyche there comes a time within the course of practice when it can be noticed that the psyche is sufficiently infused to allow for an appropriate meditation session according to inSelf Yoga, as a stable mind-field allows for retraction at the back of the head and even naad sound tuning.
When that condition is attained, for me it is also possible to already hear the transcendental sound vibration. Both the physical and subtle bodies will feel differently, from having had heavier and or negative elements expelled through the pranayama process. Then, I know that the meditation session will take place at a relatively higher zone of consciousness as well as being overall more extendable in time.
In order to develop the necessary sensitivity for the detection of the nature of the content energy of the psyche, the yogi must have advanced beyond conventional rising of the life force which is based on the linear axis from the base energy centers to the higher centers of the head. By then there is an internal understanding of different psycho-physical locks or pressure valves, of how to intuitively integrate them in the course of the session as desired or applicable, and a beginning of the evaluation of cell life force activation.