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Mervin, the hereafter man

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Date:  Posted 7 years before Jul 09, 2018

 

MiBeloved 7 years ago

A friend who recently passed away paid me a visit and was discussing his existence in the astral world. At first I asked him if he was ready to take another body as somebody’s child and he replied in the negative.

 

I then said to him, “So you like it on the astral side. You do not feel the need to be physical. How is it over there?”

 

He replied, “I wouldn’t say that I like it but it seems that it is where I should stay for a while.”

 

I pushed for more explanation and said to him, “So how is it. Where are you staying? Who are you living with?”

 

He then said, “Well that is what is weird about it and I really don’t understand how it is like this because that was not explained to me when I was on your side, on the physical side. The thing about it here is that it seems that I only exist when I think of people who are existing on the physical side. Like if I think about Curt for example, I find myself exactly where Curt is except that I can see him but he cannot see me.

 

“Most of them can’t see anything on this side, except perhaps for you. When I was alive you could have explained more of this to me but I was not in a mood for hearing about it but now I see what you were doing trying to give the brothers information about this.

 

The thing that is funny about this existence now is that it seems that I only exist when I think of someone on the physical side and then I immediately appear in the presence of that person in an instant, like now, and then they do not see me but I see them and I can pick up their thoughts which are like an echo coming out of their heads as replies to whatever I was thinking about them.

 

“But where do I go from here, from this state, I really don’t know.  But I do not feel to be someone’s child. That is the furthest thought in my mind. But you would have to tell me how to do that. I have no idea about it right now and I do not see any children. I am just meeting with adults on the physical side mostly. In fact I have not seen a baby since I came to this side.”

 

After saying that he drifted away. His subtle body just faded. He was being pulled away to someone on the physical side who was thinking about him.

 

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There were two phone calls in relation to this post.

 

These were two questions as below:

 

Question 1

 

Why was Mervin neither concerned about nor seeing children?

 

MiBeloved's Answer:

That was his mood when he left his body and he is carrying the same mood now. Particularly in Brooklyn New York where he lives, the culture is that children are a burdensome accessory. New York City is child-hostile even though it is favorable for teenaged freedoms and gives broad permissive license to young adults.

 

One thing we should never forget is that there is a rule about passing off from a body which Krishna stated as follows:

 

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Moreover, whatever texture of existence is recalled when a person abandons his body in the end, to that same type of life, he is projected, O son of Kuntī, always being transformed into that status of life. (Bhag Gita 8.6)

 

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If we apply this to this deceased person it means that he will remain focused on what he was doing just before he passed away and he will be unable to think of anything else, by the a law of psychological nature which Krishna cited to Arjuna.

 

This does not mean that he won’t take another body, he will do so but not because he wants to, only because that is the course the subtle body will take due to the eternal habit of kundalini shakti. It will take him to the next body and he will again in that body strive to be an adult and as an adult repeat a similar history.

 

This bring to fore the power of kundalini in making us take these bodies to go through these transmigrations. His behavior is the model of our human existence where we either ignore kundalini if we know of it, or are completely ignorant of its adventures but still we are taken along for its ride whether we like it or not.

 

Question 2

 

Why was this person not attracted immediately to sexual intercourse as was described in the sex you! book?

 

MiBeloved's Answer:

This person is attracted to sexual intercourse. There is no person anywhere who has a kundalini energy which does not have attraction to sexual intercourse. But it is a fact that such attraction might be veiled or might be in dormancy. Kundalini’s primal interests are survival and sexual intercourse for reproduction purposes with the side feature of pleasure. So there is no question that it is not attracted sexually.

 

However kundalini’s sexual attraction tendency is not always expressed in a vulgar way and is not always pronounced and direct. In this person’s life just before he left his body he was not as attracted to sex as he was in his youth. The desire for it was somewhat decreased. Thus his subtle body has that configuration at present. Still his kundalini is attracted and eventually it will fuse into its would-be parents and take the sexual process for getting another body. There is no way out of this for him.

 

He can stall or he will be stalled in the astral world as fated but still he must go the route which is taken by kundalini to acquire another body.

 

This person may have had some bad experiences with sexual liabilities and so he might be scared to death of it but that does not mean anything in terms of kundalini’s grip on him and its impulsive survival and reproductive habits. Therefore you can rest assure that in time kundalini will take this individual through the sex tunnel for the next infancy.

 

Replies (1)
    • I find that there is much revealed in this exchange, from “the other side of the wall”. And, I would like to repost this particular paragraph: "The thing that is funny about this existence now is that it seems that I only exist when I think of someone on the physical side and then I immediately appear in the presence of that person in an instant, like now, and then they do not see me but I see them and I can pick up their thoughts which are like an echo coming out of their heads as replies to whatever I was thinking about them."

       

      That can be the case from having have had a life that is encroached in “materiality”, as is rightfully befitting to anyone (≠ everyone) living in NYC (and, I did for a few years in the BX). It is the ardent desire of many humans to be an integral part in a fiber of such a grand and top world class social conglomerate, and that is definitely considered a great achievement in many incarnations. It is also understandable that someone in a typical NY lifestyle or similar (and who lacked consideration for “spiritual evolution”) to only exist in connection with others once relocated to the subtle dimensions, and to feel inexistent otherwise, or inexistent the rest of the time after death. 

       

      Their spyche wouldn’t have available energy imprint formations (from their immediate previous death – as expanded in Lord Krishna’s statement in the original post) to allow for access or perception into other subtle manifestations they could otherwise accommodate. That could as much as, I would be day dreaming of a life, or even a shortess moment within the original creative Causal effulgence. Actualy, a day dream has even more reality to it, than what is less than a figment of my imagination.

       

      The paragraph is also for me an “oh f**k!” moment concerning a life based on social media and devoid of real practical (much less “spiritual”) considerations of realities in terrestrial existence as abundantly possessed in previous, traditional and “primitive” lives. Subtle existence and science are irrevocably converging, as subtle afteralife may become encapsulable in downloaded memory formats, see these illustrations:

       

      See Future of Artificial Intelligence in Mind Clones Right Now!

       

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