Do you want to learn how to Incarnate?

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Date:  Posted 6 years before Nov 22, 2018

Jettins 6 years ago

In experience #467 from February 10, 2012 called, "Do you want to know how to incarnate”. I feel myself fading away into trance. Moments later I am floating and flying backwards like in a virtual reality simulator. The scenes around me where also going in reverse. Things start to speed up; everything in around me looked ghostly. Suddenly it stops and I am walking through someone’s front door.  The reality was looking very stable. A young woman had dropped me off, I didn’t see her face but I sensed her presence to be of someone I’ve met before. A very old wrinkled woman opened and greeted me.

Old women: Hello child

Me: I called for you

Old women: Yes

At this point the visual scenario started to shift and things become disorienting for a few seconds. I regain my vision as I am slowly hovering downward into the floor. I find myself now sitting in the ground in front of a nice decorated bed.

Me: What is life after death like?

Old women: You want to know about the Spiritus? (Spritus is latin for Spirits)

I got the feeling from her reaction that she didn’t take the question seriously. The visual scene dissolved and then I opened my eyes and it re-consolidated itself, but now the old women had shape shifted into a very beautiful young girl.

Old women: Don’t you want to know how to incarnate into anyone you like?

Me: No

Realizing the importance of not projecting weaknesses to unknown beings I kept firm with my thoughts and presented myself well poised.  She did not become aware of my reservations.

Old women: OK, No (She picks up a notebook and starts to write everything I say with a pencil)

At this point, I didn’t trust the source or the motivation of the old women. The shape shifting from and old women into a beautiful young girl possibly to entice me re-confirmed me that I should be cautious with this being. I thought to myself” No, I am not going to get into anything that I perceive to be negative or don’t quite understand the motivation behind why she is trying to communicate this to me”

I then start to feel fluctuations as when I am about to lose the connection to the other dimensions and wake up. Expecting my sudden return to the physical I said to her:

Me: I am going to have to get back to you

Thoughts

It’s very interesting that I felt that I had called for this experience. In every strange and unconscious way I felt that my thoughts took me to the experience.  When in the presence of self-guided dynamic beings such as this one I've learned that anything can happen very quickly. Now that I think back when I asked her," what is life after death like?" It's as if I would've asked someone in physical life," what is life like?" It would have gotten no response by the assumption that I already knew the answer to this. I do not consciously know why I was taken to this particular encounter. It is possible that it was driven by the desire to learn about nonphysical states.

To me wanting to learn about something does not mean that I will necessarily subscribe to the particular belief or activity. Learning also helps avoid acting on impulse.  Thinking about it now it could be one of the things that I must learn to be able to fulfill the role of a facilitator or guide in the astral realms. It could even be a self test to know what I want, in which case I feel I have passed. To me it is also possible that my desire to help those helplessly stuck in the astral realms opened the door for this particular encounter. Now, I remind the reader that I say this casually as I am skeptical yet open minded about everything.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins,

Life after death is being experienced right now in many dream states and astral projection encounters. The witch who was a shape-shifter wanted to clarify that it is no big deal and that what happens usually is that a person wishes for this or that and it happens instantly, like having an old looking astral body and then changing that to a beautiful youthful one to attract a man whose mind does not like the old craggy body.

As soon as the witch picked up your observation of her old body, she changed it to make it youthful but then you did not react to it as expected because she became suspect. But she showed you that in the astral world, these changes in form occur instantly and there is no need for make up or beauty aids since the astral energy is responsive to the desires.

This is true for some astral places but not for all.

Jettins 6 years ago

It was my thoughts and feelings at the time when it was happening. I really didn’t know the motivation the women had, maybe it was positive and I misinterpreted. But I’ll rather be cautious. Lying and deception could be taken to new levels in the astral realms with all the visual aids and special effects if you want to call them that.  I wonder what the psychopathic mind would create in the astral.  Many tricksters are in other dimensions no doubt.

Interesting you mention about life after death. I had a very vivid experience with my brother yesterday. He said he had died. I was able to see where he was staying, I also saw the people in the community that helped him out during his arrival. He was one of the new arrivals, but there where people there that seemed to know a lot about that place. Of the group that was there one of them said he was still alive, that he lived in South America. It's interesting that the day before I wrote, "desire to help those helplessly stuck in the astral realms", then the next morning I find myself helping. Maybe I should be more cautious about the realities I create.

I will write about that one soon. It was very nice experience.

Have a great day!

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

I got the feeling from her reaction that she didn’t take the question seriously. The visual scene dissolved and then I opened my eyes and it re-consolidated itself, but now the old women had shape shifted into a very beautiful young girl.

Old women: Don’t you want to know how to incarnate into anyone you like?

MiBeloved’s translation of what the old woman was saying:

Do you want to learn how to make your psychic body appear to be as if you were someone else, to take the shape and form of someone else for a good or bad reason? It seemed to me that you want to learn about this about why we do this, if it is for negative reasons.

It is not always for negative reasons. Where we stay in the astral world, if we think of someone and feel like we want to be in that person’s psyche, our forms change into to look like that person and we begin getting feelings within ourselves which are similar to what is natural for that other person.

But there is no intention to harm that person. Human beings experience similar states but they do not observe it keenly because it is done under their conscious threshold, in subjective states and in subconscious activities.

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

Do you want to learn how to make your psychic body appear to be as if you were someone else, to take the shape and form of someone else for a good or bad reason? It seemed to me that you want to learn about this about why we do this

Jettins' reply:

I think this is good interpretation. It could very well be. You mentioned "we", do you also want to have control of this ability in the astral realms?

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MiBeloved wrote:

if we think of someone and feel like we want to be in that person’s psyche, our forms change into to look like that person and we begin getting feelings within ourselves which are similar to what is natural for that other person.

Jettins' reply:

Yes, this appears to be the way it works. I might find interesting going into a person’s psyche for a moment for various beneficial reasons, but definitely not being, existing, living or even experiencing someone else psyche for extended periods. Of this I am 100% certain, I want to stay sovereign of my own psyche. I look around in the streets and I see about half the people having difficulty dealing with their own selves. I don't want to put myself at a disadvantage having to fix someone else psyche as if it was my own. I've gained important understanding of my own psyche to waste it away. I think I might be misinterpreting what you meant here, but I am using it to clarify my thoughts.

Question: What could be the use of being in that person’s psyche? I would like to read about your thoughts on this.

I think an answer could be to function as the guide as in JoAnn's experience and many others.  Maybe my psyche would have to be expanded in some sense and much of my identity, or what makes me tick would be lost. If this needs to happen then I declare to the universe today I am no guide and never will be period.

From the 12 - Noon Incident [put link to The 12 Noon Incident post here]

In experience #530 from April 5, 2012 called "lower and higher realms – burning as charcoal".

woman guide: losing your memory is not going to be a problem where you're going, Do what I do..

They already know this. So this means that either the operating procedures are different, I don't have the necessary information to know how it works yet, or this is not any sort of function for me.

I don't feel I need to rush with temporary conclusions. I will sort all out in time.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

I think this is good interpretation. It could very well be. You mentioned "we", do you also want to have control of this ability in the astral realms?

MiBeloved's Response:

The lady was speaking about herself and others in the astral world who have the same abilities.

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Jettins wrote:

Question: What could be the use of being in that person’s psyche? I would like to read about your thoughts on this.

MiBeloved's Response:

Sometimes this happens even without intending for it to happen.

One example is when you take an embryo, then you have to enter first into the psyche of the father and the mother before you can get that body. It isn’t necessarily done by desire to exploit another psyche.

Anytime you are in the care of someone else in a sense you are in that person’s psyche like the way children are with parents but definitely that happens big time in the case of taking an embryo.

Jettins 6 years ago

OK.

Sometimes during experience there will be people stepping out of my back, a little girl seems to come out of my back more than others. Would this little girl be attempting to go into my psyche to be born for example? or would this be a different construct?

MiBeloved 6 years ago

If she is doing that regularly it means that she is living in your psyche alongside with you. The psyche is a container but it has a predominant owner. In a pregnancy we know for sure that there are two individuals or at least that there is one individual and a potential other one. Then later we see at parturition that one of those individuals is evicted. Then the child tries to get back into the mother's psyche, and to take things from that like breast feeding and emotional demands.

So like this we can begin to understand this type of possession.

The ancestors live in the psyches of their descendants until they get another body. My four children used to be in my psyche before they were transferred into their mother's psyche and then they stayed there for a while and came out like eggs coming out of a hen.

I was conscious of them being in my psyche and knew the order in which they would come out by the way they were positioned in a queue. This is explained more or less in the sex you! book.

If there ever was a gift which people may say that I give to humanity it is that book. That is my personal contribution and I really feel that you do not need to know anything else. If you understand what is in that book, even theoretically, it would guide you into acting in your own interest which is what it all boils down to.

Jettins 6 years ago

No, not often. The same little girl 2 times maybe 3. I would have to check my logs. It has been in the span of all the experiences and not recent. Maybe it's was a misunderstood observation in my part, I haven't thought about that much. I think I've experienced attachments a few times, but not permanent ones.

I will get to your books at one point, I am certain. I will have the time, I think I am going back home at age 73 (experience #259). I interpreted this during an experience from what I was told. But I might be able to postpone this if i find a justifiable reason I think. Weird isn't it

MiBeloved 6 years ago

So long as you are just into using the astral body in the astral environments, it will be almost impossible to understand what is happening within the astral body itself.

This is similar to what happens to us physically, where we are aware of what is happening outside of our individual physical forms but we have little information about what is happening day to day within the body.

To understand who is living in your house you have to stop going outside of it and take a good look-around.

Imagine if physically someone lives in your house and comes and goes and you have no idea of it. That is what happens when the ancestors live in your physical body.

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

To understand who is living in your house you have to stop going outside of it and take a good look-around.

Jettins' reply:

Yes you spoke of this before. It appears to me that there might be some interesting ancestor in my make-up in some sense. Maybe it's why it's easier for me to do this sort of things.

You mentioned before of going into the subtle system, within itself. To do this you said to dive into the psyche and not outside of it. I have my way of approaching this but I am not certain what I am looking for.

I could ask, what should I ask exactly to get to what I should be looking for? The descriptions of the things of the most importance. I should be carrying these thoughts in my mind.

I think I need to start reading hardcore again, it works to clear these sort of things. What do you think on the age 73 question from my last post? Is this total insanity and I should forget about as it means nothing?  Prophecy is not my thing at all, but I've been exposed to a few things here and there, I've seen the exact date of a terrible moment for humanity. Should i share them here, are they only probabilities? are accurate predictions possible?  If you have a lot to say we can start a new thread on this so others can find it.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

At first it won't be what you are looking for because initially, at least in most cases, there is nothing seen, because of a lack of vision to see into the subtle body.

So just make the attempt, report on what you feel within and then we can go from there.

Nam Saker II 6 years ago

Sex you! book of Michael Beloved is very significant for my enlightenment when those details about "millions of ghost in the atmosphere" or disembodied souls give the trial of sexual intercourses which i heard long time ago from a friend, a "weird" Satanist- Taoist researcher (he says he can feel/see it scientifically, even he knows what’s behind these statues that people worship them).

I had been very confused about his explanations from sex to think, related with disembodied souls (even he said Buddha say there is no soul =_=").