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  • Regarding what you wrote which is:

     

    I think the core can be like the lotus which is not permeated by the dew drop (consciousness).

     

    There was a yogi who presented a similar idea. It may have been Paramhansa Ramakrishna. That yogi explained that the core is like a crystal which when it is near a pink light has a pink appearance, and when it is near a green light, it has a green appearance while in fact it is neither pink nor green.

    The details of this is that if we get a transparent translucent crystal and examine it in the daylight, it will show no specific color. We will assign it as being transparent. However, if we take it into a room which is lit by a pink light, that same crystal will appear to be pink.

    To be sure that the crystal was not affected, we may take it outdoors in daylight again. With confidence now that it was not affected, we may again go into the pinkly lit room but again the crystal will adopt the pink color.

    What happened?

    Is there some magic or illusion?

    The truth is that when it is in the room it is influenced by the pink atmosphere so that its transparency subjects it to pink influence. However, the influence is superficial because otherwise it would remain when we take the crystal to daylight.

    This still does not mean that the crystal is absolute, because otherwise its transparency would not allow the pink light to have influence.

    Again, we may investigate to see if the crystal is affected in any way when it is in the presence of the pink light. For instance, when we take a magnifying lens into daylight and place it so that the sun’s rays are perpendicular to it, we find that anything below the lens begins to heat up. In that case we know that the lens is affected by the sunlight. Even though the lens is transparent, it is affected.

    Hence there is a similar question about the coreSelf. Is it affected by the consciousness environment it becomes aware of? If it were absolute, it could not be affected. If on the other hand it is proven that the coreSelf may take an action to be exempt from certain influences, then that raises the question:

    • Can something which is not absolute commit an action which will make it become absolute?

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    Ramakrishna used the example of the lotus flower. He quoted that repeatedly. But in the Bhagavad Gita, we were introduced to a different way of looking at this. Krishna suggested that Arjuna should be involved but should allow the affectations to happen without being deterred by them.

    Thus, we have two types of ascetics. One type the sannyasi is supposed to be completely resistant to moods. The other type, the tyagi, is supposed to be seemingly non-resistant but should let the moods pass through and still remain objective to them.

    The sannyasi should not feel the moods because they should not pass through his/her nature, while the tyagi simultaneously feels and does not feel the moods because as they pass through, he/she does not indulge on a deep level in them.

    Where is the coreSelf in all this?

    For the sannyasi the coreSelf does not go into the pink room under any circumstance and thus he/she is not subjected directly or indirectly by the pink influence. For the tyagi the coreSelf goes into the pink room and is subjected to that influence but during the venture he/she does not take the experience seriously with the result that it does not register in the psyche as being substantial. This in turn allows the tyagi to remain uninfluenced on a higher plane of consciousness.