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Pool wrote:

A bigger question would be, what can I expect if I were to infuse prana at the navel chakra on the spine then at the front body? would that hit the base chakra and hit kundalini as well?

MiBeloved's Response:

This is your best question because this question you will have to answer for us because we have not done this particular kriya. All such methods are actually kriyas. I am sure that some yogi in the past did this but we do not have information on this from any of the books on yoga.

Everything which a yogi did is not recorded, only some of it is; only a small documentation is there.

So for this, you should do this and then tell us what happened. We are all ears to hear about this.

Part of what I did so far was to record what happened to me doing various kriyas, some of which I was shown by other yogis and some which I just discovered on my own. So I share what happened to me to alert others about it. You may do the same.

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Special Note:

Patanjali did leave us with some information about the navel chakra:

Verse 30

नाभिचक्रे कायव्यूहज्ञानम्॥३०॥

nābhicakre kāyavyūhajñānam

nābhi – navel; cakre – on the energy gyrating center; kāya – body; vyūha – arrangement, lay out; jñānam – knowledge.

By complete restraint of the mento-emotional energy in relation to the focusing on the navel energy-gyrating center, the yogi gets knowledge about the layout of his body.

Analysis:

It is necessary in the course of kuṇḍalinī yoga to energize the energy gyrating centers or chakras. These are located on the spinal column of the subtle body. This corresponds to the central nervous system in the gross form. The navel chakra extends to the front of the body, to the solar plexus region. In the case of student yogis, it may also point downward. In advanced celibate yogis it points upwards.

A yogin may enter the navel chakra of his body or that of others, from the front of the body, from the navel, where the umbilical cord was connected while that body developed in the womb of its mother. From there a yogi can see the entire layout of the body, including its lifespan, its potential for disease and its maximum capacity for helping the soul in the quest for liberation.

Application:

By supernaturally focusing on the navel energy-gyrating center, the yogi gets knowledge about the layout of the subtle body. This information and experience is had by the embryos, but they cannot utilize it.

This is from my book, Meditation Expertise:

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Pool 5 years ago

Marcia Beloved!

Thanks a lot for sharing! it's always good to know how Kundalini functions in different people!

Michael,

I got the whole part of that we raise Kundalini daily in order to purify the Nadis,

My point was, that from many different sources it's exactly the opposite, as in doing Pranayama sessions (not raising Kundalini) but that the breathings itself are purifying the nadis, while doing this for weeks/months the nadis become so purified by the breaths alone (not Kundalini) that Kundalini will Awaken on its own.

Thanks a lot for the detailed Navel Chakra Explanations!

So the navel chakra is exactly on the navel spot? some say it's 3-4 fingers width inside the body, I guess the navel chakra extends at the very front of the navel, outward and even inward?

actually today I did some light rapid breathing while laying down and sometimes some flames of heat was felt a little bit deeper inside the body more or less at the navel area.

MiBeloved 5 years ago

Pool wrote:

I got the whole part of that we raise Kundalini daily in order to purify the Nadis,

My point was, that from many different sources it's exactly the opposite, as in doing Pranayama sessions (not raising Kundalini) but that the breathings itself are purifying the nadis, while doing this for weeks/months the nadis become so purified by the breaths alone (not Kundalini) that Kundalini will Awaken on its own.

MiBeloved's Response:

I cannot subscribe to this opinion but that does not mean that you may not be able to give me an example of this being a fact.

In my experience the breath alone cannot purify the nadis because some of the energy of the nadis is on a higher plane of consciousness, and it can only be affected by a combination of breath infusion and kundalini and a very explosive mixture of that for that matter.

The breath energy itself does not reach a high enough level to fully purify the nadis. This is my experience.

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Pool wrote:

So the navel chakra is exactly on the navel spot? some say it's 3-4 fingers width inside the body, I guess the navel chakra extends at the very front of the navel, outward and even inward?

actually today I did some light rapid breathing while laying down and sometimes some flames of heat was felt a little bit deeper inside the body more or less at the navel area.

MiBeloved's Response:

Navel chakra is in all the places you mentioned above. It is spread out and according to where one senses it, that is where one thinks it is located. Wires from a breaker box run all over a building, so in that sense the wires are only in the breaker box and in another sense it is all over the building.

Wherever you feel it while you practice, that is where to you it is located. Rarely is one aware of the whole outlay of a particular chakra. That rarely happens.

Marcia Beloved 5 years ago

Pool wrote:

So the navel chakra is exactly on the navel spot? some say it's 3-4 fingers width inside the body, I guess the navel chakra extends at the very front of the navel, outward and even inward?

Marcia Beloved's Response:

Maybe even upward?

While doing a week long vipassana retreat several years ago, we were told to focus our breathing in the abdominal area at a point 2 inches above the navel while linking the attention to the rising and falling of the abdomen breathing with the diaphragm.  There were definite results.  The concentration I honed over that week of 9 to 10 hours of meditation daily, was remarkable. I went to spaces in my psyche that I have not been able to return to since, not being able to continue that practice on a daily basis.  It requires a lot of patience.

The bhastrika is designed to give more immediate results.  In my experience it also releases an unruly energy, which one must be able to handle and channel.  As it has been explained to me by Michael, bhastrika breathing in the kundalini yoga fashion is the way to go for the quickest results.  However, one may also need to have a temperament that is suited for such an aggressive approach.  It is not for the faint hearted.  It requires a good amount of stamina, quickness of mind and strong lungs.

Looking at the diagram Michael put up, pretty much all of the navel relocations you mentioned, and the 2 inches above the navel point, are all covered.

Pool 4 years ago

Marcia Beloved,

Are you familiar with the Jhanas?

Marcia Beloved 4 years ago

I am not.

Please share if you think it would be helpful.