Comment to 'Failed Yogis / Heavenly World Hideout'
  • The question about Arjuna's emotional conditions and the changes in that, is worthy of consideration. In chapter two of the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna asked Arjuna about how the condition which was lower than was expected came about. Arjuna did not answer the question because perhaps it was not a question but an alert to Arjuna than he was lowered in level of consciousness and should rapidly resume a higher relational level, where when seeing the same circumstance, one derived a totally different even an opposing conclusion.

    On one level one sees a circumstance in a certain way.

    On another level one sees the same circumstance in a totally different way.

    This happens because each level supplies different viewing access and provides reasons to act in different way as the logical thing to do.

    The movement from one level to another may mean losing and/or gaining certain perception views and conclusion.

    This means that a question about something which happened when using x phase of the subtle body may not apply, while that same question may have all the relevance when using y phase of the subtle body. In the Bhagavad Gita we observe that initially Arjuna when using a certain phase of his subtle body, saw things in a certain way and had certain crippling emotions which stipulated that he act in a certain way. But then after he saw the universal form, he did not see things in that way any longer. What happened?

    Why did the lamentation cease suddenly?

    What would happen if we asked him why he did not lament after chapter eleven?

    Would it make sense to ask that?

    Later in the Anu Gita when he resumed the subtle body, he used in chapter one, he again had a feeling to move back to the phase of his subtle body which he assumed after seeing the Universal Form, and then Krishna refused to help Arjuna to make the shift.

    This suggest that the burden of shifting was left to Arjuna alone. An infant gets assistance from the parents for walking but later in the juvenile stage, the parents withdraw help.

    Certain emotional facilities, feelings, become unavailable on certain levels of the astral body, hence questions about using those facilities cannot be answered when the yogi is on those other levels where he is out of touch with certain feelings and is in touch with a totally different range of perceptions and feelings.

    It is important to realize that one does not carry every aspect of a certain phase of the subtle body, to every other level. In dreams we experience this on occasion where sometimes we act without the normal set of feelings which we are familiar with and identify as ourselves in the physical world.

    When we take rebirth as infants, we have feelings which seems to disappear when our bodies change into adult stage. The way we endeared our mother for instance changes where we do not relate to that person the way we did when we were, say five months old. Can we ask a fifty-year-old man why he is not feeling the way he did when he was five months old?

    What happened to those feelings why can he not relive them?