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dasezuceqa's query:

If the semen is generated in the gross body, then what organs, or biochemical substances generate or combine to create the semen?

MiBeloved's Response:

Obviously your best bet to get information on this is from the current medical science. You can post what you learn about it when you do the research. It is so easy to do this now using the Internet.

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dasezuceqa's query:

I heard of this idea of semen being light or semen being heavy, the light type is supposedly easier to raise up to the brain & this heavier having the contrary effect.

MiBeloved's Response:

This depends on the cause of the light or heavy semen. If semen has become heavy because it is more concentrated because it remained in the seminal tubes for a long time, then it will usually carry a stronger more compulsive lusty charge. In the West they say that a man is horny or that he is acting like a sex-crazed billy-goat which fights with other male goats over sexual access to nanny goats.

Heavy semen which is there because the genetic attitude of the testes produces that, is not a problem if that was not concentrated due to it lingering in the seminal tubes.

The lighter or heavier type has little to do with the power of raising it into the brain. Actually the whole idea of kundalini yoga is the subtle body not the physical one. So if you want to speak about that please restrict the conversation to what happens in the subtle body. Thanks!

The important thing to strive for is the continuous even absorption of semen in the body, so that it does not build up in the groin region and then make you into a billy-goat. If the sexual energy is discharged through the system as fast as it is produced, it will not build up a lusty charge and one will not be bothered with sex urge compulsion.

In males the problem is this build up and lack of distribution of the energy as soon as it is formed, resulting into a compulsive sexual habit.

In females we see that the energy builds up over a one-month cycle and then much of that energy is discharged during the menstrual time. So then the system resets itself and builds up again. Perhaps this is a better system of nature than the one in males because we have no way to discharge the build-up except by emission in intercourse or self-stimulation. So if you can change your body so that the energy is discharged continuously you can beat nature’s system.

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dasezuceqa's query:

Once again what makes the harnessing of the light more conducive to celibacy practice in the yoga process

MiBeloved's Response:

Please rephrase this question.

dasezuceqa 5 years ago

Michael, when you called Brahma the planetary-god, do you mean the planetary-god of this Earth planet, or the planetary-god of the whole creation, both subtle and gross.   Possibly in that scenario the creation as a whole being a planet and Brahma- being the leader of the planet?

I don't understand why you said planetary instead of creator-god.

I thought that the difference in the kind of food that one eats affects the nature of the semen production relative to it being heavy or light, light being foods in the mode of goodness or sattva, and heavy being in the modes of passion and ignorance, or rajasic and tamasic.

Is not the mode of goodness more supportive of yoga in its beginning stages then that of rajas or tamas?  I thought that is why a certain diet is recommended for its practice.

MiBeloved 5 years ago

It does not matter, Chris if it is planetary meaning physical or meaning subtle. What difference does that make to you and especially for you?

Explain that!

You get some mental satisfaction from knowing, but it makes no difference to your situation, condition and method of development.

Planetary means that he is focused on producing environments where species can develop in communities and where the environments are physical which provide a relief from subtle existence which for the most part is found to be flimsy and shifty.

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dasezuceqa's query:

I thought that the difference in the kind of food that one eats affects the nature of the semen production relative to it being heavy or light, light being foods in the mode of goodness or sattva, and heavy being in the modes of passion and ignorance, or rajasic and tamasic.

Is not the mode of goodness more supportive of yoga in its beginning stages then that of rajas or tamas?  I thought that is why a certain diet is recommended for its practice.

MiBeloved's Response:

This is why you should not ask questions which are loaded or motivated. You should not try to use an authority to support your ideas because then you have to be dishonest where you do not state up front that your conclusion is such and such and you want to use the authority to substantiate it. This is high level dishonesty and a yogi has no need for that.

So the real question here is: Why are you dishonest like this anyway?

Forget the celibacy question and deal with that, and you will make heaps of progress.

It is totally wrong to use an authority as a stooge in this way. It is also harmful to people who witness it because they become confused and lost in the discussion.

This discussion uses celibacy as its legitimate focus but actually the real focus is to face that you set out to prove something and then because people do not accept your thesis, you then drag an established authority into it and use the authority to establish your credential. So the real question here is,

Why do you have to do that? What is under that? It is certainly not celibacy.

This is called a klesa in Sanskrit which means a state of psychological pain, an affliction. Patanjali wants us, the student yogis, to get rid of these inset inborn fuck-ups, to put it bluntly.

Now if you want to ask about celibacy in fact, then first state why you are asking it and then state what your views are and then ask me if I can support your views or not. This is the proper way for a student yogi to inquire of this.

unlimitedsun 5 years ago

Celibacy! I am very motivated by this crucial aspect of the practice. Yes, it has been explained that by dint of practice progress comes, and that is accepted. Association also provides the practitioner with much assistance as many of us on the path get here the opportunity to share and learn from one another.

Once a source of bewilderment from the pure joy of newly discovered pleasure, sex pleasure along with its arduous sensations after years of senseless exploitation eventually appears overrated.  As much as it might have been mesmerizing, sex propensity can equally become a source of despondency.

It would be good to adopt an attitude of openness in the vein of exchange and learning from one another as we brainstorm among individuals who may no longer be faced with the impetus of procreation, and who are not deemed exceptionally favored in the undertaking of celibacy. 

Since from the depth of ignorance one unleashed the Pandora's box in bygone years; now how to retract, and close shut the walls of this most natural floodgate?

Even when desire is not to motivate the individual as much, again and again a regular man finds that will power alone represents no match in arm wrestling with Mother Nature.

So, what are some aspects that we need to consider or rather remind ourselves when approaching this daunting endeavor?

How can we best understand sexual energy and its expressions? How can one get a prognostic?

Alfredo 5 years ago

In my case, it is obvious by now that I can maintain celibacy at the physical level, but can't at the subtle one. Recent dreams, one of a full sexual encounter with an old flame just days ago, confirm this point to me.

Thus, heeding the advice of the Acharya, I strive patiently and daily working with the Bhastrika pranayama and especially with the thighs. The meditation that follows is also crucial in the understanding of the workings, comings and goings, of Kundalini. We, common folks, are usually no match to this force, much yoga practice is needed.

Have I noticed any progress, any positive changes? Definitely yes. Primarily knowledge is power, and the understanding of the challenges at hand is the beginning of wisdom.

I have been on the urdhvaretas path for a while (sublimating the sexual energy ojas up sushumna instead of through the sexual act), stumbling, falling, getting up again. Alas, it was through a post in LinkedIn precisely on this issue that I met Acharya Beloved who intervened as I was being pummeled by others.