Comment to 'Naad as Cittavritti Replacement'
Comment to Naad as Cittavritti Replacement

  • Continued from above.......

     

    Your statement is great because it means that you are taking up this practice seriously and are thinking of how you can outsmart nature’s operations. This is good even though your method would be a flop. I introduced this practice to you and to others but most of you are spiritual eggheads. Still I explained this to you like a mama bird taking care of some naked baby birdies in a nest. I never know if any of you will be able to hack this process because you were so reliant on the bullshit situations which the buddhi organ has sponsored in your existence so far. It is nice to see one or two of you birdies practicing in a serious way like this.

     

    The student has to find a way to beat or cheat the system, otherwise he or she will forever be in this Maya as they call it in India, Maya means bewilderment. This is an amusement park and it is all fun and challenge until you begin to see that you are permanently trapped here and will never get out. Then the fun stops and you really begin to pay attention to what you are being subjected to.

     

    To be clear, let me try to summarize what I said above, using another way of explaining this:

     

    Sequence

    Practice Event

    1.

    Core-self runs from buddhi organ by taking shelter in naad vibration.

     

    2.

    Buddhi organ attracts core-self back to the frontal part of the subtle head. Core self finds that it does not have the power to remain in naad vibration when buddhi organ attracted it to the front to view images-thoughts-memories.

     

    3.

    Core-self after much meditation practice trying to reach naad finally feels that it can effectively resist buddhi by staying in naad.

     

    4.

    Core-self observes that when it is with naad, buddhi organ seems to disappear out of existence, even though it is reinstated in existence again when core-self comes out of naad meditation. However this reinstatement is with a weaker buddhi which does not have the compelling power it had before.

     

    5.

    After long sessions of meditation on naad, core-self find that when it moves forward in the subtle head during naad meditation, naad stays with the core self as it moves forward and the buddhi organ appears to be absent, as if it is non-existent.

     

    6.

    Core-self remains in its default position and finds that naad sound is with it and that it has resistance to the buddhi intellect organ in its default position, which is something it did not have before.

     

    7.

    After repeated meditation with naad while in its default position, core self discovers that it can effectively encourage naad sound to move to the frontal part of the head. There it finds that buddhi organ which remains invisible feeds on naad sound.

     

    8.

    This buddhi organ is a different mode of the same buddhi intellect orb organ which was changed because of the core-self isolation in naad, not because of the influence of naad on the buddhi. Because of the core-self’s effective continual isolation from buddhi, the buddhi organ changed and is now in a different mode of itself, a higher mode which can make use of naad vibration.

     

    Naad vibration did not cause this change. It was the isolation of the core self from the buddhi that caused this change (kevalam-Patanjali’s word, meaning aloneness).

     

          

    Dean 3 years ago

    Great!  Thank you for the explanation.

               

    unlimitedsun 3 years ago

    From the question can be derived much benefit in the reply.

     

    Michael Wrote:

    Because of the core-self’s effective continual isolation from naad, the buddhi organ changed and is not in a different mode of itself, a higher mode which can make use of naad vibration.

     

    unlimitedsun’s comment:

    I just want to make sure of the presence of not in the above statement.

               

    MiBeloved 3 years ago

    unlimitedsun,

     

    thanks, the word should be now.

     

    I edited it.

               

    Dean 3 years ago

    Michael, do these verses from the:

     

    Uddhava Gita English pg 74, Chapter 8 verses 34-37 reference this practice?

     

    One should regard this existence as an hallucination, being a theatrical presentation of the mind, being seen and then disappearing, being extremely shifty like a firebrand whirling in a circle. The one consciousness appears in many variations. The tripart consciousness which is produced by transformation of the modes of material nature is illusion like a dream. (8.34)

     

    Hence withdrawing the perceptive interest, abandoning craving, one should be silent and by experiencing self-happiness, one should be free from cultural activity. Sometimes, if this existence is experienced, it will not be bewildering, being already discarded as unreal by the intellect, even though it will be as a memory until the death of the body. (8.35)

     

    The perfected person, who realizes the self's true form, does not regard the transient body, whether it is sitting or standing, or even if it is taken away by providence, or acquired by destiny, just as a man who is drunk by liquor, does not regard the garment which covers his body. (8.36)

     

    The body controlled by providence and along with the vital energy, it must be tolerated until the cultural activities which are the origin of it, have run their course. The person who attains continuous effortless linkage of the attention to a higher concentration force by yoga practice, and who realized reality, never again dedicates himself to the body and its extensions, which are like dream. (8.37)

               

    MiBeloved 3 years ago

    You have great potential to be an exemplary yogi for realizing that those verses are connected to this subject of meditation being discussed.

     

    The whole phantasmagoria of the material world is only perceived because of the connection with the buddhi intellect orb. If that orb is removed, the spirit would not perceive this existence. Hence Patanjali has rightly directed that we abandon the operations of the intellect.

     

    If you are at a distance from a disaster, it won't affect you at all. Sometimes when there is a war, a relative dies on the battlefront and his family not knowing what happened continues in happiness in his home town.

     

    However as soon as they hear about this death, their happiness comes to an abrupt end.

     

    This means that the anguish reaches us through connections or through adjuncts. Hence the necessity to break away from the adjuncts.

     

    Trauma will always be in this world. That is for sure. Therefore our best bet is to work on disengaging from the psychic adjunct which connects us to this situation. It is the only way out.

     

    In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna described the material world as an eternal banyan tree. If something is eternal then you will be frustrated if you have this idea to get rid of it. You will waste your time. Krishna told Arjuna to hack away at this eternal tree using the axe of detachment. That is the way an individual may sever his connection with the traumatic information which the tree produces as its fruits. It is the only way out.

               

    Dean 3 years ago

    Thank you for the encouragement. By reading your experiences and the hard work that you put into your spiritual practice is very motivating for me because I know as the expression goes I'm "behind the eight ball", so I have a ton of catching up to do.