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Verse 50

वाह्याभ्यन्तयस्तम्भवृश्चत्त् देशकारसङ्ख्याश्चब् ऩश्चयदृष्ो दीघयसूक्ष्म्॥५०॥

bāhya ābhyantara stambha vṛttiḥ deśa kāla

saṁkhyābhiḥ paridṛṣṭah dărgha sūkṣmaḥ

It has internal, external and restrictive operations, which are regulated according to the place, time and accounting, being prolonged or hardly noticed.

Verse 51

वाह्याभ्यन्तयश्चवषमाऺेऩी चतुथय्॥५१॥

bāhya ābhyantara viṣaya ākṣepă caturthaḥ

That which transcends the objective, external and internal breath regulation is the fourth type of breath infusement techniques.

Verse 52

तत् ऺीमते प्रकाशावयणभ्॥५२॥

tataḥ kṣăyate prakāśa āvaraṇam

From that is dissipated, the mental darkness which veils the light,

Verse 53

धायणासु च मोग्मता भनस्॥५३॥

dhāraṇāsu ca yogyatā manasaḥ

and from that, is attained the state of the mind for linking the attention to a higher concentration force or person.

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Here Patanjali goes even further to say that pranayama when it is successful and valid, will not only give progression into 5th stage of pratyahar sensual energy withdrawal but into the 6th stage dharana linkage of attention to a higher reality. There will be no hish-hashing of the usual nonsense in the mind.

Alfredo 3 years ago

Michael wrote: [Who cares what process it is or who recommends it?]

Alfredo's Reply:

You contradict yourself, as you have been recommending your pranayama process - kapalbhati and/or bhastrika breath-of-fire - here for the longest time.

So...who cares? I do, for once, I suspect others too. That's why I recommended it to Manish. Having tried others, they do not work as well.

The fact is, many sadhaks get entangled in some pranayama practice, and most only work when a long time is given to the practice and when done properly. Both parameters usually work against the sadhak. So the process is also critical.

manishsony 3 years ago

Thank you very much for sharing the wisdom both of you. I think I need more practice which honestly I am not doing. I do practice for minutes..

Another problem is my visualization is so strong that it takes control of me. Different planets, lifeforms, far places, sacred geometries comes beautifully.. It stops automatically after some time and I get into deep meditation. I think the method I am using is visualization method. Once we are in correct theater we will see correct movie as per our objective. If we don't want to see it we can go further for knowledge state, dhayana state or different mental levels.

I think outcome or result of both the methods are same, but for cross validation of myself and my methods I will have to follow inner voice or Naad. The final meeting place of both the methods should be one otherwise there is something wrong in one of my methods.

MiBeloved 2 years ago

Comment posted by MiBeloved in Inselfyoga when this post was posted for a brief period in Inselfyoga for testing and deleted later:

These are from an older post when our site was at another internet location. This information is perpetual. One important thing about this is the diagrams.

Perhaps you are not familiar with the diagrams and you have no idea of an intellect as something as a psychic organ. It is a different way of thinking about your psychology. Study the diagrams and consider if you can begin perceiving components of consciousness.

People who drive autos hardly have interest in what is below the hood. There is no need to look below the hood if the vehicle works properly and if there is a breakdown and you have a qualified mechanic and can afford his services, there is no need to bother with the various parts.

In yoga however, it becomes necessary to be distinguished from the psychic adjuncts which are combined with the observing self. It becomes necessary to study how the self is influenced within the compartment of individual consciousness which we term as me or I, or my body or his body, or my mind or his mind or my emotions or his emotions. These diagrams address that issue.

Knowing that the car is one thing is one way of viewing the car but if it breaks down, that one view becomes an impediment in terms of repairing the vehicle. One has to isolate the defective part to get the auto moving again. Thus fragmenting out the components of consciousness, the conventional self, has importance in higher yoga practice, even though it is unnecessary and somewhat unnerving in conventional life.