Caroline BlackInteresting. It reminds me of Buddhist philosophy on non attachment and non self. Can you say more about the self in yoga philosophy please ?
Mae FergusonThis summary in my opinion provides a spiritual path of positive energy.
Yuliya KuzinaWhat about attachment to the planet? How can an extreme empath detach from the sad reality of today's world and ignorance and continue a happy and healthy existence and still be useful to society without being selfish?
Michael BelovedYuliya, being useful to society may be a stop-gap measure, in the sense that no matter how useful a person can be, the world will continue its wayward path and will eventually be ruined permanently by nature itself, which is the big factor. No matter how we correct the world, it will resume chaos and inconsideration as we perceive it. Thus like scrubbing teeth every morning, we may continue good works with the understanding that our efforts will again be overpowered, and we will have to scrub again the next morning.
Michael BelovedCaroline, Mark Leary wrote a book called Curse of the self, in which he did not spare any pains in describing our inner condition. It wasn’t New Age. He made no effort to whitewash the self’s chaos and or to pretty-up human viciousness in the struggle for existence. Questions are:
What is the self? Is there a self in the first place?
This dogged philosophers for all time. The avoidance of the issue of the self which on one hand appears to be ephemeral and on the other is definite, was expertly demonstrated by Buddha in conversations where others tried to pin him down as to if there was a real self in the first place.
Michael BelovedObviously the conventional self of you or me is mock up based on the parents of the body, its ethnicity, its education, its functional gender and so on. But that cannot be a permanent anything, because none of our departed ancestors are here as real identities as they were before. Certainly the shifting definition of identity from infancy, to juvenile, to young adult, to elderly adult, shows clearly that any idea to establish the social self as a permanent whatever, is unscientific. And yet we function for the time being in acceptance of that shifting format of a supposed permanent self.
Try boarding a commercial flight without a valid government ID.
What does yoga have to say about the self?
Basically it says that the self should be liberated (mukti) Who does yoga say is that self? That depends on the yoga sect, the lineage.
Michael BelovedSome say there is no self. Others say there is a self which is presently confused and need insight to free itself from lower designation, beginning with the present social format.
Caroline Black Interesting. It reminds me of Buddhist philosophy on non attachment and non self. Can you say more about the self in yoga philosophy please ?
Mae Ferguson This summary in my opinion provides a spiritual path of positive energy.
Yuliya Kuzina What about attachment to the planet? How can an extreme empath detach from the sad reality of today's world and ignorance and continue a happy and healthy existence and still be useful to society without being selfish?
Michael Beloved Yuliya, being useful to society may be a stop-gap measure, in the sense that no matter how useful a person can be, the world will continue its wayward path and will eventually be ruined permanently by nature itself, which is the big factor.
No matter how we correct the world, it will resume chaos and inconsideration as we perceive it. Thus like scrubbing teeth every morning, we may continue good works with the understanding that our efforts will again be overpowered, and we will have to scrub again the next morning.
Michael Beloved Caroline, Mark Leary wrote a book called Curse of the self, in which he did not spare any pains in describing our inner condition. It wasn’t New Age. He made no effort to whitewash the self’s chaos and or to pretty-up human viciousness in the struggle for existence.
Questions are:
What is the self?
Is there a self in the first place?
This dogged philosophers for all time. The avoidance of the issue of the self which on one hand appears to be ephemeral and on the other is definite, was expertly demonstrated by Buddha in conversations where others tried to pin him down as to if there was a real self in the first place.
Michael Beloved Obviously the conventional self of you or me is mock up based on the parents of the body, its ethnicity, its education, its functional gender and so on. But that cannot be a permanent anything, because none of our departed ancestors are here as real identities as they were before. Certainly the shifting definition of identity from infancy, to juvenile, to young adult, to elderly adult, shows clearly that any idea to establish the social self as a permanent whatever, is unscientific. And yet we function for the time being in acceptance of that shifting format of a supposed permanent self.
Try boarding a commercial flight without a valid government ID.
What does yoga have to say about the self?
Basically it says that the self should be liberated (mukti)
Who does yoga say is that self?
That depends on the yoga sect, the lineage.
Michael Beloved Some say there is no self. Others say there is a self which is presently confused and need insight to free itself from lower designation, beginning with the present social format.