Yogi / Raised on Killing Cows
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 3 years before Apr 03, 2016
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Meditation this morning was a bit different. The breath infusion session immediately prior was very efficient. Trunk of subtle body was sparkling with energy due to infused charges flashing here and there. Some of that was like tiny crystals of light energy moving here and there clashing with a bliss aspect of feeling within it.
As usual when I sat to meditate I stopped the breath infusion and shifted to doing what Patanjali termed as samyama which are the three higher stages of yoga progressing in a sequential way from dharana to dhyana and then to samadhi.
But let me be clear what I am talking about because this samadhi is not mergence and oneness. This is something else. Usually after the breath infusion, there is some switch in the subtle body, the psyche, so that it internalizes and reaches a higher level of consciousness.
This means that an effective pranayama session carries with it the benefit of a completely pratyahar effect, so that the yogi can move from the pranayama 4th stage of yoga and jump to the 6th stage which is dharana. If he is lucky, the yogi may even jump over dharana to 7th stage of dhyana practice. That is the wonder of pranayama and it is the reason why some yogis are so attached to pranayama.
Others who never found pranayama to be effective have no idea of this secret.
Thus when I sit to mediate, I first try to link into that higher plane of consciousness. This effort to link is dharana. So what is this linking? Well it is like if you are in a room of building and you find out that there is a room above your room on the next level of the building where there is a better quality of air. So you drill a hole through the ceiling, push through a tube and begin sucking on that higher quality air. It is similar to that. Dharana in this definition means that I am somewhere consciousness. I become aware of a higher level of consciousness nearby existentially and then, I put out a probe and connect into that higher level.
Once this is done, that connection will either remain as I linked to it or it will break the link. If it remains so that I do not have to keep my attention on it, to keep it there, then it progressed into dhyana but if I have to keep my attention to keep the link then it is a stagnant dharana and it has not progressed and I have not done the samyama process of Patanjali.
Now if the link is sustained by itself and I have to make no effort to keep it, and then it just remains like that for a long time say for about 20 minutes, then that dhyana has progressed into samadhi. So then I can say that this meditation was a samyama.
I have not become the other higher level but I have linked into it, I am feeding on it. It has saturated my psyche.
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At first when I sat to mediate, I noticed that naad sound was blaring in the back part of the head but high up. It was very clear and pronounced. It took over the whole back side of the head. There was no other type of energy there. It was like a part of the universe where there was no dust, no planets, no stars, nothing just this vibration blaring and blaring endlessly in an infinite space
There is perception there but there are no eyes. There is light and vibration perceived there even without eyes of any sort. It is omni-directional vision of vibration.
Incidentally Lord Krishna did not discuss naad sound in the Bhagavad Gita except to say that yogis at the time of death meditate on the brow chakra and on the Om sound, and to declare that He was identical with Om. However in the discourse with Uddhava he did mention naad sound and spoke of the mix of it when it is in sushumna nadi. He recommended linking with it in that discussion.
So I tuned into naad sound. Then I immediately checked to see what the effects of the breath infusion were. This is important otherwise a yogi has to know what the benefit of pranayama is. Most people who meditate are not doing pranayama and they say they are getting satisfactory results. So why do pranayama if it is not going to do something special for you?
I always check to see what I am getting from it. If it becomes ineffective, I will drop it. You can bet on that.
For some ten minutes I was involved in naad sound but I kept a look-out to see what the infusion did. At first there was just this energy below the neck. It had this vibration which was that I should not enter or interfere with it. Since naad sound was pronounced and was of a higher frequency than usual and since the vibration of it was definite and spiritual, I began to feed on it.
After about 15 minutes, Srila Yogesh was in my subtle head handing me something. When I touched it I was transferred into the chest area of the subtle body where I moved back in time and was about 9 years of age back in South America where I grew up.
I was sitting on a step and a grandparent of my body was there above me. This person was self -employed stitching shoe tops, working with leather.
Srila Yogesh from a distance was looking and pointed to the leather. As soon as I looked where he pointed I became aware of cows being slaughtered just for their hides, because human beings needed leather for shoes, clothing and other concerns.
This energy was hampering my progress towards a yoga siddha form. I remained with the energy of the place, the environment of my upbringing in this life; it was saturated with influences from cow slaughter.
For a time I was there down in the chest of the subtle body in the subconscious reserve of energy but with full objective consciousness. I did not get an instruction about how to nullify that energy.
After a time, I came back to my physical body consciousness and the session ended.
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On LinkedIn,
Muz wrote:
All praise for your investigative tenacity, Michael. However, in my experience, using two different levels, or hemispheres, of the brain to experience and evaluate at the same time is taking you out of unified consciousness. Better to immerse yourself totally in nadam and evaluate the experience later, otherwise the thinking capacity carries you off in other directions.
MiBeloved's Response:
Muz,
You are not reading my report carefully. What you are doing is putting my report through the process of your process and then it is spitting out a recommendation.
So your process is a process but what I am doing is a different process.
In the first place, in this meditation you have to take into account pranayama practice and your process does not have that included in it at least you did not state that.
Your process is not following the ashtanga yoga process to a tee, meaning that you are not following the steps from pranayana through samadhi in the meditation practice. That is what I am doing. Now I could just dump my process and adopt yours but that is totally different and it won’t allow me to properly evaluate what Patanjali recommends. which is pranayama, then pratyahar, then dharana, then dhyana, then samadhi.
After breath infusion with bhastrika for more than 40 minutes, then I sit to meditate to complete the other four steps from pratyahar to samadhi and then I observe what happens. I do not direct the observation.
It is a guinea pig thing where you observe the behavior of the animal. It is not like having pets whom you train and direct in what they should do. The success of this is exactly to allow it to go where it will and then to report that and see over time what the worth of it is.
Maybe I will move over to your lab one of these days but for now I am doing the Patanjali method and evaluating what happens when I follow it. This is to give it a fair shake.
You mention the brain. That information about the two hemispheres is an important consideration and factor but I am not doing any experiment with the brain and its hemispheres.
I am working with the subtle body and the head of that does not have those two hemispheres, at least I have not experienced that there. It does have psychic organs in that head but I never experienced those two hemispheres. But then again I am not working with the physical brain. That is a totally different report which I will have to rely on you to provide.
You mentioned immergence into naad and not getting carried off by thinking.
This is super advice but it has no application in my practice.
Here is what I do.
Spend 40 minutes minimum doing breath infusion of bhastrika pranayama which is rapid breathing with intense concentration within the subtle body.
After that, after kundalini is raised and after the subtle body is surcharged with prana and all the apana energy in it is extracted and thrown out of it, I sit to meditate.
The first part of the meditation is to reach naad sound and also naad light. As soon as that is done, the next state and this happens within the first 3 minutes, I check to see what the breath infusion has done.
I then link into the effect of the breath infusion.
If the effect is such that I cannot link, then I wait in naad and keep an eye on the effect. Then later I link into that. This is dharana practice, which usually flows of its own accord into dhyana practice which usually flows into samadhi practice.
I remain in this samadhi until I find myself out of it, usually back at the core-self’s default position at the center of the subtle head, listening to naad. Then I peer forward.
Why?
Because I have an instruction from one of my yoga gurus to do so to check on two psychic organs; the third eye and the buddhi intellect organ.
So you can see that is the process.
You want me to change that but that is not possible because I am following this from an instruction from a few yoga gurus whom I meet on the astral aside. I have an obligation to them and also to my life mission in terms of practicing and noting the effects of the Patanjali system.
Which guru are you taking instructions from or are you making up your process as you go along? No harm either way. I am just curious to know.
I would love to hear your daily reports about this right and left side of brain thing which is out of my research papers.
I am filling reports on this and making notation of this during the practice at certain times during the practice, not always. In some experiences due to emergence I cannot make a report because in those states, the reporting-observation mechanism is off limits because the consciousness at that level does not have any reporting organs in operation.
My job is to report and to write books of it, so I can’t follow your advice not to report, even though I can see that it is part of your process.
Anyway I do appreciate your concern.
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Muz,
If you have the time, read the report again.
The investigation about the cow slaughter occurred because of two factors, the effects of the breath infusion causing me to enter the subconscious where those memories are stored usually in an off-limits existential container, and the directive instruction from a yoga guru who exist on the subtle plane.
This person is Srila Yogeshwarananda. He wrote some very informative books like this one:
This investigation was not the result of the thinking process of the brain. None of this was on the physical level. One cannot enter the subconscious chamber by the method of a thinking process.
Dean 3 years ago
Michael wrote: So I tuned into naad sound. Then I immediately checked to see what the effects of the breath infusion were. This is important otherwise a yogi has to know what the benefit of pranayama is. Most people who meditate are not doing pranayama and they say they are getting satisfactory results. So why do pranayama if it is not going to do something special for you?
I always check to see what I am getting from it. If it becomes ineffective, I will drop it. You can bet on that.
For some ten minutes I was involved in naad sound but I kept a look-out to see what the infusion did. At first there was just this energy below the neck. It had this vibration which was that I should not enter or interfere with it. Since naad sound was pronounced and was of a higher frequency than usual and since the vibration of it was definite and spiritual, I began to feed on it.
Dean's question: When you link into the dimension where naad exist and begin feeding on that energy for a consistent amount of time. Can an entity relocate there once they are evicted from their physical body? And is this the same dimension where the siddhas exist?
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Dean's question: When you link into the dimension where naad exist and begin feeding on that energy for a consistent amount of time. Can an entity relocate there once they are evicted from their physical body? And is this the same dimension where the siddhas exist?
MiBeloved's Response:
Naad sound comes from a no-man’s land zone where there is the divide between the spiritual and material worlds. What we hear when we are on this side of the divide is what we call naad. It is not a residential area as such.
Connecting to it links one to the edge of the spiritual world but that is not a place of habitation. It is more like that railway outpost in the middle of nowhere, a place where if they drop you off, you cannot do anything there but to wait for the next train to pick you up again.
Siddhas exist below the level of naad, but as soon as they develop eligibility for transfer to the spiritual world, they pass through the naad zone on their way there.
The value of naad is that it is an anchor, if you do not have it then where will you anchor in meditation. That becomes a problem and a shifty one at that. The core-self can be used as an anchor but it is not God, it is not the Absolute. It is a limited unit self. Thus taking shelter in itself is to some extent instable. Naad is stable.
