Transmigrating in the Same Family
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 5 years before Jan 23, 2019
MiBeloved 5 years ago
A few nights ago I was in an astral dimension in South American. The interesting thing about that place was that there were no radios, no automobiles, no televisions, no internet, and no mechanical devices of any sort. The place was relatively silent in that regard. It felt strange because I was there with my reference from this digital age in which we find ourselves.
If the psychological package of that cultural identity was left behind with the life force or was shut down for whatever reason, it would not have felt strange but would have appeared to my objective consciousness to be normal.
There were no boats, no engines, no electric lights, no sun, and no moon. There was an ever present glow of light like when it is totally overcast with low hanging clouds and sunlight spreads around without any pin-point source or like when sunlight spreads through fog or mist.
People were present in that astral place, mostly deceased people. I did not see any animals or insects. There were roads and the astral body used those roads on occasion or just appeared and disappeared. None of the astral forms visibly penetrated anything or passed through anything. To the astral body, everything there, the building, the roads, whatever was solid just as to our physical bodies, this physical earth is a dense object. On occasion someone would disappear or appear as need be, manifesting or unmanifesting in thin air.
I was there with a few deceased relatives and with another male relative who is still using a material body which is younger than the one I use. They wanted to discuss the cultural progression of the family. I listened to them but did not say anything because I am not interested in remaining in the family transmigrating as a relative in it.
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Preeth Kumar wrote:
Your soul wants to get connected to your relatives by the way of visiting them but the present consciousness is aware that they are not needed anymore!!
MiBeloved's Response:
The subtle body is not the soul but it is the psychological residence of the soul while the soul does these transmigrations through various material bodies in various stages of history. This subtle body is self-controlled and it is also non-self-controlled, which means that from within it, it may be directed to act and also from energies and powers outside of it, it may be directed to act even against its own will.
Sometimes there is a conflict within the subtle body where one energy or component within it fights against another part of it. This is experienced in the physical body too where one part of it acts in a way which risks the health of the entire form. A relative of mine was addicted to sugar and despite severe pain and discomfort from diabetes, the tongue of the body never relented and forced the entire body to go on suffering
Do not assume that the action(s) of the subtle body is always based on the desire within it. It can be overpowered by the desire of another person and will act under that psychological or emotional influence.
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In this situation, one of my relatives wanted me to be present at a meeting with another relative. By the force of that, my subtle body went there, even though I did not have a desire to be with them at that place and at that time.
The present consciousness as you term it, meaning my present developed somewhat-realized consciousness, anticipates that the association with them would cause rebirth in their family again and that would not be in my yogic interest.