Third Eye Meditation Limits
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Date: Posted 3 years before Jun 12, 2016
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Meditation on the third eye is not the process which will cause the mastership of Patanjali yoga in terms of his second sutra which is:
Yogah cittavritti nirodhah
This sutra does not speak about seeing through the third eye or even using any of the psychic equipment. It is totally involved in shutting down the activities of the psychic orbs.
Later in chapter 3 Patanjali discussed samadhi practices which are involved in the use of the third eye but for mastery of cittavritti, one must first shut down the psychic orbs of operation which are involved with the buddhi, the memory and the kundalini life force.
First of all even though in theory this proposal of Patanjali seems to be reasonable, in practice it is near impossible because the psychic orbs do not respond to will power instructions for their complete shutdown. Usually the shut down occurs in deep sleep, special trance states, unconsciousness or coma.
The operation of the third eye usually leads to more cittavritti activities. Even the attempt to focus on and use the third eye results in that. Patanjali spoke of the complete shutdown not the partial momentary shut down. He explained the total outage of the psychic operations.
For this to actually happen, a yogi has to feel a completely blank space or state where there usually were flashes of memory, impression image formation and thought production activity. And this would have to be occurring naturally not by forced concentration or by drug effect or even by after-states when the mind is simply too tired to act because of repetitive chanting.
It is unfortunate that many kriya masters directed students to third eye focus as a method of attaining the state required by the second sutra of Patanjali.
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Alfredo 3 years ago
I found this quote from a Yogananda book: 'Those who go deep enough in their concentration will penetrate that 'third' eye and see 'God'.
However, I have a question, the squinting eyes of Lahiri Mahasaya's pictures, I often wonder about that.
Also, in Shambhavi Mudra of Shriyukteshwar and Babaji, like the picture below...open eye meditation.
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Alfredo Wrote: I found this quote from a Yogananda book: 'Those who go deep enough in their concentration will penetrate that 'third' eye and see 'God'.
MiBeloved’s Response:
This statement about penetrating the third eye and seeing God is misleading, because it suggests that you can just concentrate deeply on the third eye and get this result without any prerequisites. First of all if you yank a man off the street and you sit him to meditate and he is able to focus on his third eye in the center of the eyebrows, then he will not achieve this even if he sits for one millions years.
Why?
Because there are prerequisites which must be met before such focus can actually give him the result intended. I am saying that because those prerequisites are stated in advance, it is a hoax.
Arthur Beverford also was living in California in the time of Yogananda and Rishi Singh Gherwal and from Yogananda’s book and his teaching Beverford used to give this instruction, but it is useless because of the missing prerequisites.
No one should repeat this instruction unless that person has got the result intended from doing this. I do not mean every once in a while results but consistent day after day results, not a flash here and a flash there, now and again.
Giving this instruction to others, the way Paramhamsa Guruji gave it is a form of passing-the-buck. This is like when I get a counterfeit hundred dollar bill. What should I do with it?
Take it to the police and turn it in or pass it to someone else who does not know that it is counterfeit.
If I give it to the police then I would lose 100 bucks. But why should I take the loss? Someone fooled me with it. So I will fool others with it by passing it to someone else who was like me and could not detect that it was an illegal currency.
Or should I turn it in to the police and then write a letter to the newspaper describing how I was fooled with it so that others can be alerted? Make your choice. I won’t blame you if you pass it along because self-preservation is the first law of nature or something along those lines.
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Alfredo Wrote:
However, I have a question, the squinting eyes of Lahiri Mahasaya's pictures, I often wonder about that.
Also, in Shambhavi Mudra of Shriyukteshwar and Babaji, like the picture below...open eye meditation
MiBeloved’s Response:
Shambhavi mudra is for causing the vision to shift from the physical to the subtle. This had to do with the external vision of the subtle body not with the buddhi organ. It allows the yogi to perceive subtle existence while he is conscious of his physical body. Usually a yogi has to shift over through astral projection but mastery of Shambhavi mudra causes one to get the ability to do that even when the physical body is interspaced in the subtle one.
The great value of it is the level of the subtle body one shifts into. A great yogi, because of other meditation techniques, can shift to very high levels of the subtle body which an ordinary yogi would not experience if he does this same practice. So the practice itself is not it, it is the level of internal practice which is the key to this.
Any use of the subtle eyes, the two subtle eyes is not necessarily connected with the third eye which is a totally different orb. And the practices like Shambhavi mudra are dependent on other inner yogic action which are not even hinted if one sees a yogi staring into nowhere in a photograph.
All these advertisements are bullshit because they mislead the beginners who think that sitting and staring like that will give results. It just won’t. It is what Sri Yukteshwara did on the inside and what he did in other meditation sessions that we need to hear about if we are to progress.
Alfredo 3 years ago
Very nice, thank you!
