Surya Yoga Sadhana - Practice Panel - 12/02/2012
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Date: Posted 5 years before Dec 23, 2017
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Sun. - 12/02/2012
Yoga-Breath of fire practice session:
Session was focused on the lower part of the body with a need of relatively more effort in the left thigh. Body felt rather tense.
Life Force Energy:
Shift in practice: attempts at willing the energy downward versus soliciting it to rise as usual.
And attempts were made to maintain locks until the energy dissipates, along with momentary deep breaths to increase breathing capability.
Some blockage felt in the neck and shoulder is interfering with the flow of energy, this is due to tension and pressure.
Compression was executed in a limited fashion, as attention/ will power followed the energy as it spread/ manifested, encouraging it to spread further, as well as shed insight/ light into the subtle body.
One aspect of the compression is more about the trail of pain at this stage. Bringing about an increased control over the life force energy.
Mind focus: a dynamic and exerted process of observing and analyzing by the mind and intellect.
It is noted as from the past few days that naad can be heard outside of practice, without earplugs with the same pitch and volume as with the earplugs! This seems very odd because without earplugs it feels like the sound is outside of the head, and with earplugs it is perceived to be within the mind-space.
In that regard, I once wondered why Swami does not use earplugs, since he advocates blindfold I presumed that the same principle would apply, but now I can hear naad practically the same with or without earplugs. However, pinpointing the node would need more focus and would be more challenging without the plugs.
When predominant activities were perceived from the buddhi organ, the self turned to accept the situation, and then returned focus to naad or the back of the head. However the sources of the thought formations could not be determined with any precision whatsoever.
It was also noted that focus was not sufficient to cause the attention to be totally absorbed in naad. The presence of the thought forming region, the intellect even when inactive was felt. It was just as being concentrated the other way but aware that the TV is on in the room, somewhere in the background.
Goals and Objectives–long term:
Subtle body detection: looking down in the trunk more.
Book Readings:
The "Yoga Sutras" of Patanjali; Enlightenment in practical terms!
Subtle body ventures or interests recalled synopses/ retell:
Interaction with son and then relatives in Mali. Details were fuzzy.
Reflections:
Still thinking, lest I stop imagining!
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Surya wrote:
It is noted as from the past few days that naad can be heard outside of practice, without earplugs with the same pitch and volume as with the earplugs! This seems very odd because without earplugs it feels like the sound is outside of the head, and with earplugs it is perceived to be within the mind-space.
In that regard, I once wondered why Swami does not use earplugs, since he advocates blindfold I presumed that the same principle would apply, but now I can hear naad practically the same with or without earplugs. However, pinpointing the node would need more focus and would be more challenging without the plugs.
MiBeloved's Response:
Each of the senses does not have equal value. In one life form like that of dog, the sense of smell may be more essential than the visual sense. For a hawk the visual sense is the most valuable. It depends on the life form you are using. Even in a human being, if the physical body is blind, then the other senses like the sense of hearing and the sense of touch become predominant.
In yoga practice, the visual sense has to be brought under full control because the buddhi intellect organ and the kundalini place emphasis on the information from this sense more than it does anything else.
To test our instinct on this ask yourself that if you have a choice which of the two senses you would prefer to have, the hearing sense of the visual one?
A dog may surely take the hearing sense but what about you?
When the outer ear canal is blocked that produces increased awareness of some extra vibrations in the body which are not heard normally if the canal is open. There is a practice in kriya where one blocks the ears by pressing in on the ear canal from the outside. This also causes one to hear other sounds and to perceive the vibrational reverberations with the body.
However normally a yogi does not use earplugs.
You can experiment with plugs and that is your decision. Why ask questions about things which were not recommended? Why play around and ask questions whimsically. Student should ask questions about the lessons he gets from the teacher and should make up other lessons and then ask the teacher about them.
Extra-curriculum activities are the business of the student. The teacher has nothing to do with that. Why drag the teacher into that. Remember that the teacher is a student too and has a limited time to help others, even the teacher will fall back in practice and become a mediocre yogi.
Kirpal Singh guruji said to listen to naad and he was from a lineage which was involved the most with this practice. None of their teacher as far as I know ever said anything about using ear plugs or stuffing cotton into the ear.
Naad practice is specifically that, which is naad practice. It is not the same as some other part of the kriya practice. It is important not to try to mix it all up. If you are in an English class, there is the grammar part, the composition part, the comprehension part and so on. These are all separate disciplines.
There is no specific reason why I do not use plugs and there does not have to be a reason for everything. This is a Western cultural demand which students make on their teachers in the Western civilization where it is presumed that teachers are duty bound to give information on demand.
This is not good for yoga students.
Wandering of the mind into various aspects which are not mentioned in the lesson books and teachings is okay but the teacher should not be dragged into that. Good relations with the teacher does not mean that you cannot do other practices, but it does mean that you should just deal with the teacher concerning the lessons that teacher recommended.
Visual focus is a special problem. Hearing focus is another different problem. Methods for controlling each are different. One system that works for vision will not necessarily work for hearing or for any other sense.
Naad sound as I describe it concerns hearing naad without any pressure or constriction applied to the ears. Don’t ask about what to do when applying pressure or when using plugs because that is nowhere in the lesson plan.
Yoni mudra and some other practices include closing air canal with the fingers but that is a separate practice. To do that you have to find a guruji who teaches that. Do an internet search and research it. But the naad I speak about is with no pressure applied.
The increase in frequency then occurs not because of ear plugs but through the pranayama 4th stage of yoga as per Patanjali ashtanga method.
You do the pranayama and then there is increased clarity in naad sound and you meditate on that. Matter is closed. It has nothing to do with ear plugs.
Undoubtedly as you said you perceive other naad sounds and so on using the plugs but you will never get from that method the advancement acquired by following the ashtanga method of Patanjali which use pranayama not ear plugs for the same practice.
Maybe there is something you can get from ear plug, so if you pioneer that method and can tell us what you discover, some persons who read your report might take up the method based on your advice.
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Part of yoni mudra concerns also pressing in on the eyes. But when one sits to meditate after doing the pranayama one should just sit and meditate. At some other time one may do yoni mudra but one should get contact with a guruji who does it and who can explain his experience with it.
Alfredo 5 years ago
Jump, Gurubhai, jump!
Swami Hariharananda Guruji taught Yoni Mudra. He changed the name to Jyoti Mudra, but it is essentially the same practice described in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika. Indeed one does cover both ears and eyes, and hears and watches, that was the instruction, and this was an integral part of the 1st Kriya motions he taught.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Prabhu, you just saved me from reinventing the wheel.
