Surya P. - another wacky dream

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Date:  Posted 5 years before Jan 28, 2019

unlimitedsun 5 years ago

I was having a lucid dream flying around in space and marveling in it and for much longer than I ever did before. I tried different stuff, but I don't remember details, but when I would become concerned about the speed, I just think that "it's okay just have trust, just stay within". In past experience the speed and particularly steep falls across space would be intimidating. On a few occasions I have even put end to it thinking "no way I will go through that!"; not this time, I was having a ton of fun upon getting the confidence to summon what it takes for me to have trust (something I might have learned in a recent experience with an entheogenic). I eventually got enough after a while and returned to my room.

When in my room I noticed an emotion pulling me out. It was as though my child was outside and I had to go get him or maybe her, so I went in the hallway and stopped in front of a door. I knocked and an Asian lady came to the door, she was sexually deprived, and begged for me to make love to her. There were about four other women in the apartment, one younger was on the side, there was an obese bedridden woman next to whom was standing another one. The apartment was poorly lit and I did not want to be there any longer. But the woman who opened the door was supplicating for sex/ making love on the floor and taking her clothes off in desperation. Somehow I retorqued at her in a firm and controlled voice "I don't owe you nothing! You don't control me and I don't have to do what you say".

Physically that woman looked like someone I know and to whom I do not want to return in spite of reported hopes on her part. And in previous dreams sex takes place and I simply think well it's a dream I can't help it. It is very liberating to act according to one's intention in the subtle world, and not subjected to just about any desire, will. I believe actions in the physical carry over in the subtle, but also in reverse desires (negative or positive, unwanted or even psychic artillery) emitted in the atmosphere infiltrate the subtle and affect the physical; the two are actively interrelated.

As I stood at the door willing to leave but unable to, the obese woman expressed that her husband is about to arrive. Suddenly, a stocky male with so sharp a knife it was translucent (like a Japanese saber knife) came through the door holding the machete above his head as if he were to strike someone. I simply took the arm from his hand, he went into the apartment as if he had not noticed. The mood was just as his eerily dark and low.

I became concerned that I was still there (against my will) and that there may be serious trouble. So I relaxed/ calmed down and decided to wish myself away from there. I felt, and was back in my room. I arrived flying in and moving around like sharks do on the ocean floor. Below in the room was a beautiful sand, I decided to touch it, to feel it and move it. Then I realized that I was in a dream (lucid) because the bed was kingly with a variety of pillows on it.

 The picture in my recollection is Salvador Dalliesk. But I thought I was already awaken! Yet, from the look of the room it must be a dream still. My conclusion was that I had awaken from my lucid dream, in a dream world. I thought that was really exciting, and wanted to call Swami and tell him about it. But then I thought he might get upset for the botheration.

I thought that the dream has been going on for a long time and wanted to wake up in my real room where the bed is my little mattress on the floor, and for that I thought I had to go through the door. But the door had a large black shelf in front of it, barring access to the other side. I felt trapped again, I thought of being to the other side and there I was. Across from me where four African youngsters claiming that they have to come to me (from Africa?) by force. I was refusing/ denying them! The older one amongst them pulled out a firearm to make his point.

I menaced him in turn to call the police, and when they saw me turn back towards the inside of the apartment and yelling at my girlfriend (who appears to be African) to call the police they got the message and chilled. In my mind I was now in my apartment, and everything was back to normal. However, I then woke up and realized that only now was I "here", even though the other place felt really familiar.

I had a lot more confidence in this lucid dream!

MiBeloved 5 years ago

Very clear recall.

Go for it.

chavez 5 years ago

Violence is something that comes of natural human instinct in certain senses. If not, then one must at least acknowledge that violence is, and always has been present in this world. You, I and everyone else knows what it is. So therefore it is something you think about, whether consciously or subconsciously. Whether positively or negatively.

I find people who have very violent dreams either are opposed to violence and keep it completely locked up, ignoring the mere thought, or people who decide to face the reality of violence constantly ponder over it. I am at the latter of those beliefs. My curiosity of violence, human monstrousness, physical capacity to commit heinous crimes lead my dreams to be very violent.  I have dreamed of my impending death many times and only as I am about to die, I awake immediately. I have decided to see if I can realize while dreaming that I am only dreaming and have tried to let myself be killed but the subconscious will not allow it.

Dreams are not given and fixed. You do have choices. What does it 'mean' that when you are so violent in your dreams? Well, it means to me that one’s own Dream Persona is insanely violent and it is not a good thing, or is it?  Is there some alternative?

When under attack, what can be done but respond in kind? It’s up to one’s own self to decide whether the subconscious is instructing the conscious to be more aware. My conclusion - just because you may ponder about violence does not mean you will become a violent person. It is almost exactly the opposite and those who block it out, will have the violence haunt and eventually possess them.