Subtle Body in Heavenly Form

Meditationtime Forum Post

Date: Posted 5 years before Apr 04, 2017

MiBeloved 5 years ago

Email correspondence:

I felt kundalini moving up to my jaws and it felt wonderful as I was clenching! Something told me to try and move this deluge of energy further up into my forehead and more into my head!

I did that and I heard the lovely Naad again and stayed in that state for a short while. Whilst I was yet again seeing the stars and the Purple cloud of energy opening and closing with very random faces of animals and people and a few scenes, completely random!

I did not see the Eye shape this time and in fact I have not seen that for a week or so! The thing in front of my vision changes from a Tunnel vision to a glittering light! It was a very beautiful meditation and I felt the energy is trying to pop up like a Soda Pop out of my Jaws! It was almost the same as an DMA experience some years ago where my Jaws were shaking, although it was nowhere as that experience many years ago with E.

At the end I felt I am seeing bright glittering light around my hand and when I brought my hands together, I was seeing more glitters and a very warm feeling! I then moved the palm of my hands to my face and my stomach and felt the warmth very strongly!

Now my question is more about my Jaws clenching and whether it was kundalini up in my jaws and why it always affects me there than any other place! Oh, I forgot to say that after I tried to push up the energy to my head, I felt tingling sensation in my brow!

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I felt kundalini moving up to my jaws and it felt wonderful as I was clenching! Something told me to try and move this deluge of energy further up into my forehead and more into my head!

MiBeloved’s Response:

Whatever that something was or whoever that something was, that is a very important part of kundalini yoga. If you are attentive within then you will get this guidance and this will eliminate the need for an external teacher about 80%. So what is this?

Mostly one gets instruction from prana or from the subtle energy which moves kundalini and which is used by kundalini in its ascent up the spine and its movement to various other parts of the body. This energy itself is an intelligent energy and so if you are attentive to it, it will instruct you on what to do.

And don’t be surprised that you are being instructed by an energy. What happens when your body got to puberty and then there was a sex urge and then you found a sexual companion and then you were urged for participation. This was all being driven by an urge-energy which had the intelligence to know that a sperm particle had to get down a fleshy tubing for the creation of an embryo.

Apart from this subtle energy intelligence, there can be instructions given into your mind or into your psyche by a yoga guru. In either case, it is in your interest to execute the instruction. Usually when people are doing some type of kundalini practice, they are not attentive in their psyche due to external distractions and due to the fact that the kundalini itself is hung up on getting information about the conditions and things which are outside the body, due to that, one does not focus within and this decelerates the yoga practice for that distracted yogi.

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MiBeloved’s Response:

There are three major components in the head of the subtle body. These are the core-self which is raw spiritual energy, the sense of identity which aids the core-self in identifying its adjuncts and the intellect which aids the core-self by providing analysis. In this world it is not possible for a spiritual being to function without the assistance of the sense of identity and intellect.

The sense of identity is capable of visual perception and so is the core-self but unfortunately right now that capability is undeveloped. Therefore we will simple ask these two components to sit in a corner and we will deal with the intellect which is currently doing a full time job as the Secretary of State for the pee-wee president which is the core self and the First Lady which is the sense of identity. Unfortunately the First Lady is blind even though she is capable of vision. Patanjali said that if we want her to see, we have to dismiss her as the Secretary State and then we have to tell her to shut up. If we can get her to comply, he said that she would develop supernatural vision.

This means that these three components, the blind and sensually-useless core-self, the talkative sense of identity and the diplomatic intellect are presently incapable of vision. So that leaves us with the third eye.

If a yogi is lucky he will be able to see things at the third eye and if he is even more lucky he will see through third eye, using it as a window into other dimensions.

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MiBeloved’s Remark:

Unfortunately meditation experiences are most non-intense and so many persons who had their first subtle body experience through using drugs, gets frustrated when trying to repeat such experiences by meditation. However one needs to know for sure that drug experiences rely on drugs and on a body that can tolerate the same. Therefore it is best to be patient and to stick with meditation. But one should compare the experience of meditation with that of drugs in order to get some insight into what occurred during drug experiences.

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MiBeloved’s Response:

By repeatedly meditating, day after day and by paying close attention to the subtle happenings during practice, one would develop over time, the required sensitivity to know what body one is experiencing at a particular time, One must also develop a way to distinguish the subtle body or a phase of it from the physical form, even when the subtle one is interspaced and synchronized into the physical one.

This body which you experienced with the glitter energy is an astral level which is called Swarga in the yoga books. This is a lower paradise or heaven but it is very impressive from our level as mere animals on this planet. In such a body, all of it is made of colorful lights which have a misty texture to it. These are very beautiful forms and they can drive an earthling crazy because of their intense bliss feelings.

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MiBeloved’s Response:

Each subtle body has particular easy accesses and blocked areas, just as in the physical body, each person has a different ailment. Something is wrong with my eyes but my friend’s vision is 20/20. My feet are in order but he walks with a limp. So it is like that. Each person has certain parts of the subtle body which are easily accessed by kundalini energy and certain parts that are blocked so that kundalini never goes to those parts unless special yoga postures and diet are used to free up the blockage.

When kundalini enters the head it can do any of several things all depending on which paths are open to it. For you if you are able to command it or coerce it to go to the third eye or if it goes there of its own accord, then that is very good. Keep up the practice.

You mentioned pushing kundalini, so I assume that you are pushing it with your will power. Is that correct? If you are not then inform me of the means of pushing.

shahyarm 5 years ago

I found your reply incredibly useful and I am grateful! The way I thought I should direct the kundalini energy upwards was somehow a matter of intention and mysteriously it seemed to work! I am not sure if it was so much 'Will power' but more perhaps 'intention! Although, I don't remember it exactly now.

I was wondering if there is a clip of the correct way of 'Breath Infusion' at all or can you possibly give me an idea of how fast or slow one must do that! I assume this is done at the beginning of the meditation!

MiBeloved 5 years ago

Ideally, one should do the breath infusion and then immediately after without any interval, one should sit to meditate.

As for the clip, I will ask Bernard to provide some assistance with that.

Bhagiratha 5 years ago

The particular videos can be found HERE...

shahyarm 5 years ago

Thank You Bernard! This is really the first time I have seen breath infusion properly shown by action! I will follow the method showed by Michael.

shahyarm 5 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

"This body which you experienced with the glitter energy is an astral level which is called Swarga in the yoga books. This is a lower paradise or heaven but it is very impressive from our level as mere animals on this planet. In such a body, all of it is made of colorful lights which has a misty texture to it. These are very beautiful forms and they can drive an earthling crazy because of their intense bliss feelings."

Shahyarm's inquiry:

What you termed as "Misty Texture" regarding the visual form I experienced on my palm side of my both hands are really the best description! I felt I could see exactly the "misty texture' coming out of my hands and the sensation when nearing my hands together was like a mini electric shock! The glittering of hands was very very interesting as I have never thought they are real and always assumed it must be a visual mistake or glitch or something generated by my eyes but it makes sense now!

MiBeloved 5 years ago

On a certain level the entire body is like that not just the arms. Also all other persons living in such a paradise existence have bodies like that of varying colors. The vegetation and the fruits everything is like that.

It is such that if a woman, for instance wants to change the color of her eyes or if she wants to adjust her complexion, it is changed into what is desired as soon as she thinks about it. There is no application of cosmetics because the mind on that level and the will-power is applied effectively without any extraneous endeavor.

Such a level of existence however, even though it is fabulous in comparison to this world, is a danger to those who are serious yogis, because if a yogi goes to such a place after leaving a material body, his spiritual progress will come to an abrupt and sudden end. He will be totally distracted by the wholesale pleasures and enjoyments which occurs in such a place. The beauty in such a place is really not skin deep and it will overwhelm the mind of a student yogi.

Still, yoga apart, that is really the place a human being really wants to be. People who are permanent residents in those places, regard a beautiful or handsome human body to be just the way we see the bodies of primates.

If you are fascinated with just your hands being like that, then consider if your entire body was like that and consider if you were in a paradise where all the bodies were like that, except that each body was markedly different with different tones of beauty and with transparent body textures of multiple colors way beyond anything perceivable in this material place.

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