Subtle Bodies Meet

Meditationtime Forum Post

Date:  Posted 7 years before Aug 17, 2018

MiBeloved 7 years ago

Subtle bodies sometimes meet to hash over incidences of the past which formed complications in the lives of individuals. Last night, suddenly I found myself in the presence of a couple who are now divorced and whose child was abused when I lived at a Hare Krishna farm in West Virginia.

Even though they were separated for some years now, both the man and the woman acted as if they were still together. In other words, their subtle bodies moved back in time and meet to hash over the problems they had when their son was abused by a teacher in the religious boarding school.

My physical body was located in Brooklyn NY while I met with these persons who actually came to the location of my physical body. Suddenly the three of us were located astrally near to the boarding school, which may or may not be in the same location at this time.

The man looked at me for an explanation of what took place. Then I began to list the various teachers who were at the school at the time and their sexual orientations. I was certainly there and thus I had a responsibility. I did explain however that I was not an authority in the school. I was just a teacher. They were senior people above me and those persons were all of homosexual orientation.

This was a religious society from India, but it stressed renunciation. All of the teachers were under that pressure and some who had a homosexual orientation before coming into the society, shifted completely into that to take care of their sexual needs, except that since they were in a male boarding school situation, they satisfied those needs by using some of the boys who were in their care.

These two parents are carrying with them the karmic content of their neglect of their son. They were told by their guru, who founded the Sect that the movement was pure and that the senior people were surrendered and pure or near to pure but what they got in return was some very ugly karmic consequences.

As we poured over the facts, there was the realization that much of what happened was beyond their control and that their surrender to that guru was terribly flawed and that his promises were worthless statements. His guarantees were baseless claims.

This was very painful for these two individuals since they really endeared the founder of the sect and thought he was blameless.

These two persons were using white bodies. The woman was born in Germany and she carried with her some prejudice towards other races. She did not express this to me years ago when her son was in the boarding school, but tonight she apologized for her indifference to me some years ago.

In an argument I had with her years ago when she lives in the community, I explained that when the Biblical prophet Moses came down with the commandment of “You should not kill,” it was in reference to human beings and not to all species. She immediately went to the leader of the community who was the most senior disciple of the founder of the Sect. The founder has cited that biblical stipulation as support of the Indian idea of not killing animals like cows.

I was then summoned to the leader of the community and he riled me about the issues saying that what the founder said was infallible.

Now this lady apologized for the incidence and also for mistreating me in any case because I was using a black body. I told her not to be concerned because I do not carry resentments over circumstances of that nature.

Moses could not have received a commandment not to kill cows because the sacrifice of animals was part of the Jewish system of worship to their deity. The stipulation about not killing in the Old Testament was for not killing human beings, and only in reference to human beings who were not offensive to the Jewish tribes. But the founder of the society has used the commandment to say that Christians should heed the commandment and not kill cows, as if the Jewish deity was concerned about cows the way Krishna, the deity of the Sect was concerned about bovine animals.

Thus when I tried to clarify the biblical application of that commandments, the followers of the founded riled me sufficiently.