Slipping into other Dimensions

Meditationtime Forum Post

Date:  Posted 7 years before Jul 19, 2018

MiBeloved 7 years ago

From Pavlina’s Forum:

Shoshoni wrote:

Dreaming while fully Awake:

This is my first post to this forum. I am in search of answers. I am a very rational person and I am a mentally stable person. But when I experience something that I have never experienced before, I want to find out answers. Let me clarify that I had not been drinking, taking any kind of drugs or medication when this event occurred.

Some years back, I was taking a trip with my family. The sun was getting low in the sky, so low in fact that my visor would not block it. So, since my husband was driving, I decided to shut my eyes and relax. The sunlight peaking in and out of the trees flashed on my eyelids. After a while the flashing faded and I began to see bright colors swirling around. I just sat there and enjoyed the light show. Then the colors went away and I was dreaming, yet I was still fully conscious. The place that I was in was a place I have never been to before. I was excited to explore this waking dream. But before I had a chance to, one of my children asked me for some help, so I opened my eyes and left the dream behind.

On the way back from this same trip, my husband was again driving and the sun was low in the sky. I shut my eyes and this time without the flashing lights or the swirling colors, I was right back in the waking dream, exactly where I left off. This really intrigued me, especially since it was so easy to get back there this time. I couldn't wait to explore, but again before I had a chance to I was interrupted. My husband wanted me to take over driving. I was happy to help out, because now I knew how easy it was to get back into this waking dream. I got a drink of water and some fresh air so I would be alert when I was driving. It took my husband about 10 minutes to find a place to pull over and I took over driving. While I was driving, I had a weird pulling sensation and a hole opened up in my vision. I knew that if I looked at it, I would be pulled back into the dream. I was terrified. I kept my eyes moving, but would not look at where I felt this pull. Up until then, it hadn't occurred to me that this waking dream could be dangerous. But now I could see the danger. If it could pull me into it without my will while I was fully conscious and my eyes were open, then I was putting my family's life and my own at risk. I never allowed myself to go back even though I was so curious about this phenomenon.

Does anybody know what it was that I experienced? Do you know of any information on the subject? Someone else who has experienced something similar? I would like to discuss this with someone who has an understanding of what this was all about.

MiBeloved’s Response:

I would be interested to get a few more details:

did the experience reoccur after that?

How many hours were you awake before the experience happened?

The last question is important, if you can recall if you were awake for sometime before that experience took place.

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Shoshoni wrote:

The only times this occurred were the two times mentioned above. I would not put myself in a situation where I would allow it to happen again. I was too afraid that if it happened so easily the second time and it was trying to pull me back in while I was driving, it could only lead to disaster if I ever allowed it to happen again.

In both instances I had had a full night sleep the night before and had been awake about 12 hours or so when it occurred. I had been awake all day and never fell asleep. The dream was very vivid and real feeling but I was not asleep. I knew I was sitting in the car with my family and could hear them there. The two incidences were about 4 days apart and on the same stretch of road, but probably about 60-100 mile apart.

Again I will state that I had my eyes shut but I never went to sleep.

MiBeloved’s Response:

I surmised that it was the case that you were up for many hours.

Here is my take on this:

This happened because your subtle body needed to separate from your physical body. Your physical body needed rest.

A similar thing used to happen to truck drivers who did what was called the long haul. Nowadays there are Interstate regulations which prohibit truckers from driving for many hours and so it does not happen as often.

Let me explain something.  The physical body when it is awake is actually composite of the physical body and the subtle body. This subtle body is sometimes called the astral body. After these bodies remained fused for some hours, they must separate. In other words, that is a law of nature. No human being or animal no matter how powerful that person is, can keep those two bodies together awake forever without sleep. Eventually the physical body will fall asleep and when it does, the physical system goes into repair mode, which we interpret as sleep or as dream and sleep or as astral projection, dream and sleep.

After being awake for some time if one does not take rest, then one begins to doze off. But if one does not doze off and sleep as nature requires, one may enter into an hallucination. This hallucination is usually interpreted to be just, mental nonsense but in fact it is actually vision of other realities.

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Here is what happens:

As the life force in the body takes actions to put the physical system to sleep, and as the person resists that sleeping tendency the subtle body begins to separate anyway and as it does, the person’s attention is shifted over to the subtle side, the psychic side. That person then begins to perceive the subtle or psychic existence and sees into a dimension which is subtle.

Note that the same process takes place if the person were to lie down and sleep, if the person decided to do so, but the difference would be that there would be no perception of the subtle world. The person’s mind would skip that experience, because of not resisting the dozing off tendency.

A fear of these experiences is not really a solid conclusion because if one were to enter into that hallucination, you would not remain there and you would return again to the physical system as soon as the life force which keeps it alive during sleep, requires your presence. In other words, you are already going through that experience every time you sleep and you come back into your body and wake up as the social you. The same thing would have happened; except for one small detail that if you were driving a car, then of course if you doze off the car would crash, like it happens to anyone who falls asleep at the wheel.

But the death of the body then would not be because you could not get back into the body. It would be because you were shifted into another existence by the life force in the body. It would be because when you dozed off, your physical body was no longer being controlled by your active mind.

There is no need to fear coming back from such experiences because you are having those experiences every time you sleep except that you do not recall the experiences. Astral projection and lucid dreaming really means conscious astral projection and conscious lucid dreaming with stress on the word conscious. We are having those experiences but we are not recalling them usually because our objective mind is usually out of touch when those experiences take place.

I would suggest that you take up meditation and that you experiment to bring back those experiences by doing this:

Just as when a person needs rest, and if they keep driving or whatever, they will doze off and have hallucination (which I said were actually real experiences of other dimensions), so a person can have astral experiences when taking a second rest or nap after a full rest.

Get a full rest, and then lay on your back with your eyes closed or covered with a dark cloth or in subdued lighting, and in a quiet place. If you are lucky your astral body will separate and you will experience astral projection consciously or you may have a lucid dream experience.

But by all means get rid of the idea that you will not come back, because that is the most natural thing that the life force is sure to do, just as it conducts our breathing without our help most of the time, and just as it causes us to wake up as our physical selves after resting on a daily basis for so many years. It is very reliable for this one thing. In fact we live only because of that reliance that we will wake up after sleeping. Everyone one of us has faith in that.