Singular Divine Body
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 3 years before Jun 02, 2016
MiBeloved 3 years ago
An Email Inquiry:
I do believe or has to believe that The Geeta is a live document, because it has been uttered from Krisna-The Avtar or supremebeing, whatever he did, should be live. On that basis-my second question - Geeta says about how to live achieve your final goal or to reach to your destination, which is the super/subtle material or perpetual environment/nature. Now, according to my perception, unless the Supremebeing is same as that environment or he created the environment, he cannot say completely about that environment. To say or speak 100% authoritatively about any subject or any being, one has to become that subject or he may be the producer of that subject. I quote one example for that, while thinking about woman and it's living/pain, Shri Ramkrushna Paramhansa, became woman himself, got all the hormonal changes like a woman. To speak Geeta, the supremebeing had to take "manav avtar" as Krisna, he could have done or stated sitting at his place- Heaven or loka. But thou did not do that. Hence, pl. explain how the supremebeing and the perpetual environment or spiritual entities are different..?
MiBeloved's Response:
The Supreme Being, Krishna, exists side by side with a complementary spiritual environment. Acts of creation are not involved in this. It is spontaneously occurring simultaneously just like that without an act of labor, without an act of imagination without an act of visualization.
The nature of the spiritual energy there is such that there is no need for an act of invention, creation or any type of psychological or physical manufacturing.
In the material world we see that if Jack is born and then Singh is born from the same mother. They are regarded as brothers and genetically it can be proven that they are brothers in the biological sense. But in the divine place this does not happen like this. There Jack and Singh are eternally present as brothers spontaneously and their relationship where one is elder is there also simultaneously without any birth process or time process.
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So what is the evidence?
Can I prove it?
There is no evidence except your taking my word for it now and then your achieving or being awarded direct experience of this in the future. For this only two kinds of proofs are available. One is faith in someone who claims to have experienced this and the other is your own direct experience of this.
I cannot prove it, because from where we are existing right now, the divine world is on the subjective side of our consciousness and presently we have little confidence in that side and hold it suspect. Presently we are unfamiliar with that side of our consciousness.
I can however pilot you in the direction of direct experience. To gain that you have to shift over to the spiritual side of existence, you have to assume the spiritual body. This is not the astral form which we use in dreams. It also has to be a spiritual body which has spiritual limbs and senses. If it is just a brahman effulgence spiritual body, you still will not have the experience.
Can I help you to attain that?
No, someone from the divine side, Krishna or alternatively one of the Personalities of Godhead would have to do that. I am not in that category.
