Should We Spit on Indra
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 3 years before Jan 12, 2017
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Email Inquiry:
In one of your books, you said that Lord Krishna doesn't really want us praising or worshipping lower deities like Indra. That Krishna is the source of everything and there's no need to. What does this really mean, should the worship of Indra never be performed?
MiBeloved's Response:
It means asking such deities for favors which Krishna does not approve of.
They must be asked because Krishna positioned them to do certain services but when we engage in corruption, we get them to serve outside of the restrictions Krishna installed.
When we approach them in the Krishna-approved way, we are approaching Krishna because then they are acting as his assistants, as his arms and legs.
In the statement in the Gita when Krishna explained what he disliked about the worship of these minor deities. He said that it was because we solicit disapproved favors from them which he has to cover the costs of anyway, and so he does not like it.
Krishna is not there for direct access to everyone. The lower deities are there for this direct access but they should not be enticed to do what Krishna does not want them to award.
When we flatter them they deviate under the influence of that flattery and then they gave us things which serve for destroying our relationship with Krishna.
Just as an important person does not want everyone to approach him or her, so Krishna is not interested in everyone approaching him. He assigned these lesser deities to take care of most of the services but he does not like if we get something from them that he prohibits.
Indra is an agent for Krishna and he must be appreciated for two reasons:
1. Because he is an appointed agent.
2. Because he is a willing employee.
#1 is because of God.
#2 is because of himself as a willing subordinate of God.
He must be respected on both counts not just on count #1 only.
If one only respects Indra because of God's appointment, one will go to hell because of the failure to appreciate Indra as a person who cooperates with God.
Some devotees ridicule these lesser deities and due to that a term in hell awaits them. It is insanity to ridicule such a person. The average devotee human being is not on par with Indra and won't be on par in the near future either.
Scumbags are always happy about the ruination of a great personality because there is this need to boost one's self esteem by seeing a great person in a bad way. That is human nature, but all the same it is suicidal because if the sun falls out of the sky and even if it loses its luster, it will still be greater than a match stick. Even in its fallen condition, it is greater than the brightest torchlight. That is how great it is.
To become an Indra deity, one has to have served as a noble ruler in many many births, providing government facilities for millions of human beings and animals. That is not an ordinary achievement. It is Krishna himself who directly and indirectly trains such a person in the art of political responsibility (dharma) and who then awards that person the post of Indra, so to think that this person is nothing is a life sentence in hell. No devotee in his or her right mind will do that.
But as yogis, Indra is our friend and master. He is providing favorable weather conditions and supervises the Maruttas who are deities of the wind, or prana, without which our breath infusion practice is toast.
In going up to the siddhaloka places we have to pass through Indra’s world, either with rapid speed or slowly, and so what will we do, regard this person as a shithead nobody when he is appointed officially by the same Krishna.
A policeman may be an ordinary citizen with no aristocratic family line behind him and still if one refuses his command then the governor will not like it if that command was sent down to the precinct by the governor himself. If one spits on the policeman when he comes to serve a warrant, then how will the governor feel when he hears about it. Will he say to the policeman, “O you are nothing, It is only important that they should respect me. They are my law-abiding citizens, you should always put yourself out so they can spit on you.”
Is that what the governor will think?
