Sex and the Siddhas
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 5 years before May 29, 2017
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Someone has contacted me mentally about sex life, regarding if it can be the cause of a loss of spiritual progress or if it would slow down spiritual attainments in yoga siddha accomplishment.
To be truthful about this, sex life has nothing to do with siddha attainment. It depends on what you are aspiring for. If you are into sex life, then do not bother with the siddha life. Siddha life is for people who are done with material social life. In other words you are done with it because you went through it in many lives. You have exhausted for yourself the need for it.
If you still feel the need to be a husband or to be a father, then do not bother with the siddha life. It is best then to just try to perfect the life of responsibility as a dad and a husband. When the time comes where that life is no longer fulfilling, when you have grown out of it, then you can go for the siddha life. Even then you will be hesitant because as soon as one develops a skill, one has this sense of mastery. Then it is difficult to give it up.
People who go to the higher astral heavens and who still have the need for sexual indulgence; come down again to the material world to finish out their desires in this regard. Why?
Because that is how the material nature operates with that kind of desire-energy. There are stories in the Puranas and these are not myths. These are incidences which actually happened. There is a story about the deity, the sun god, Savita, the person whom brahmins pray to three times per day. Once his wife named Samjna did not want to be with him. She arranged to have her shadow take her place in the dimension they were in. Because she was a supernatural being, her shadow was a living woman; it was not like my shadow or your shadow. This shadow woman’s name was Chhaya. It took some time but the sun god got to understand that his wife had left and that he was with a substitute woman.
Then he left that dimension and went searching for Samjna. He was very attached to her and wanted to be with her. Because he was the sun deity, none of the dimension below his zone were off limits to him. He could penetrate any place. He found her on the earth but Samjna when she detected that he had tracked her there, took the form of a mare, a female horse. She felt that in that form he would not recognize who she was and she would get away from him. But then he took the form of a stallion, caught up with her and had intercourse with her. Even though he is the deity, still because he came down to a lower plane and assumed a lower form, his affection for his wife converted into vulgar sexual intercourse.
This story seems like some myth but it is valuable in showing that even a deity like the sun god can be brought down to the physical plane just by the fact of conjugal attraction, what to speak of other entities who go to the higher astral dimensions. So if you are very attached to any person for sex, then if that person goes to a higher place, you will desire to go there and if that person goes to a lower place you will desire to go there. Sex is such a thing that you will risk your entire existence and imperil yourself for it. You will become a hog if it is necessary, or a cockroach or whatever just to be with that person. In whatever situation that person is placed by providence, you will attempt to enter that level of existence. When you do you will have to manifest your desire there by the rule of involvement on that level.
My body is now 61 years of age. I meet many men my age and older. Some of these guys are still into sex and still desiring to have sex. Sex is very powerful such that even when the body gets old, one continues to crave for it. One feels that one can get some fulfillment and satisfaction or conclusion of pleasure from it. This means that it will outlive old age and death of the physical body and will continue to harass us for fulfillment even in the hereafter.
There is a story about a celestial woman named Urvashee (oor-vuh-shee). This woman was no ordinary person. She was in fact a supernatural person, a goddess from another world. But somehow she came down to the earth and took a body here, just as sometimes we find that a beautiful and irresistible woman becomes recognized on a worldwide basis by acting in movies or by being born in a royal family. This woman Urvashee was that kind of woman who if she walked down a street, nearly every man would turn to look and would desire her.
Urvashee got in touch with a king named Pururavaa. They began living together but there was a hitch in the nuptial agreement, where if her pets, two lambs were ever stolen, she would leave and never return. Once some celestial people from the dimension where she was a native decided that they had to get her to come back to that astral place. They stole the lambs in the middle of the night and she cried out for Pururavaa to save them. Unfortunately for him, he did not have on his pajamas. When he got out of bed he was naked, besides the celestial people were far away with the lambs. In any event, Urvashee cursed him out saying, “Since you are exposing yourself to me like this when we are not in the mood for intercourse and since you allowed my pets to be taken, I am done with you.” She then left him.
The guy practically went crazy and looked for her all over. He could not find her, because she had actually left and slipped into the other dimension. Once however when there was a big kumbamela type festival in India, when many mystic yogis came out of the Himalayas, Urvashee came there with some other celestial people and Pururavaa saw her. The guy went out of his mind because he wanted that woman real bad. He ran up to her and begged her to stay with him. She agreed but instead of staying with him she substituted a celestial woman who had the power to take the form of any other woman. Pururavaa was happy about this but after a while he got to realize that there was something different in the way this substitute woman would have intercourse with him. Then he sent that substitute away.
Again another time he met up with Urvashee and complained about how she treated him and then when he passed from his body, he went to the dimension where she was a native and lived there for many many years. This was a horrible thing in the eyes of the siddhas and great yogis, so much so that Uddhava questioned Lord Krishna about it in the Uddhava Gita. Uddhava wanted to know how it was a great devotee of Krishna like Pururavaa was allowed to be taken away by a woman like that. Uddhava asked why Krishna did not rescue Pururavaa from the celestial goddess.
This means that it is not easy to give up sex life. It is a native aspect of this existence. The idea of getting away from it is more or less a fantasy. You can imagine what it is to the siddhas so that Uddhava was crying to Krishna about what happened and tried to ask Krishna why he allowed for the goddess to control Pururavaa like that.
So siddha life has nothing to do with sex desire. It is not that anybody is saying there should be no sex desire but if you want to be a siddha then you have to forego that desire. This is the point. If you are attracted to a companion and that person takes a lower form, then you will go down with that person just to have sex. Actually the pleasure of sex is intense in the other species of life as well. You may not even miss the human form if you go down into a form which gives more sexual facility and especially if you are not bothered by human judgments like morality.