Sense of Identity Surround
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 3 years before Jun 18, 2016
MiBeloved 3 years ago
During meditation this morning I worked on checking the operation of the sense of identity surround, in regard to how it interacts between the core self and the buddhi intellect orb.
This is part of the lesson plan of Srila Yogeshwarananda in terms of getting the psychic orbs in the subtle body under a tight regiment, so that Patanjali yoga becomes possible in real terms for shutting down the cittavritti impression/idea sequences which usually keep the self hypnotized and distracted from the essence of itself and everything that is really spiritual.
At this stage of the lesson plan, one must have already mastered pranayama practice, to the extent that the buddhi organ remains shut down of its own accord during the meditation. This means that it just appears to be non-existent and none of its usual performances happen. At that stage one does not make an effort to discipline or stop the buddhi or become detached from it, because it appears to be absent.
Actually it is not absent but it is just shut off due to the long practice of inner focus and doing pranayama to uplift the subtle body.
This practice has bhastrika pranayama as the first part of it, where the trunk of the body is completely infused with new pranic energy, subtle energy, so that all dark energy hiding in various parts of the lower parts of the form are moved out of the psyche. Then the neck is attacked because it serves a constriction area which prevents the free flow of energy from the trunk into the head. This is not the sushumna nadi channel which passes through the neck but the fleshy part of the neck.
Once the students breaks apart or explodes the darkness in the neck and it is removed, then the energy from the trunk flows freely into the head.
When this happened this morning, it felt like sliver needle springs fired through the neck to the top of the head, firing energy and discharging bright white lights rapidly. There was also a bliss energy expressed in this.
After this, when I sat to meditate, naad was in the back right side of the head but instead of a node it had a carbon rod-like configuration as its center. This was about one quarter inch in diameter and was about ten inches long, hanging vertically down in the back of the subtle head and disappearing in the neck.
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Srila Yogeshwarananda was not present but he left an instruction in my psyche on what to do and it read this:
Remain in the default core-self position.
Do not go back to naad
Keep contact with naad
Then operate the interest focus tool
Pull it in
Push it out
Repeatedly do this to get a feel for this.
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So that is what I did during this meditation. I had some diagrams before which I published and which were similar to what I did here. I will now look through my files to find that diagram, and will post it below.
Basically, what happens is that the sense of identity is felt around the core-self like a supernatural vicious fluid around the core-self. Then when that self-expresses an interest, any interest, then a part of the viscous fluid takes the form of a point and goes out into the direction of the interest.
Usually as soon as this happens the buddhi will arrest the interest and take control of it but in this case due to the absence of the buddhi, the interest pointed out about half inch.
So I kept doing this over and over and also checking to be sure that I remained aware of naad in the back and that nothing happened in the frontal part of the head.
As to the objective of this practice, I cannot give that at this stage. I won’t be badgering Srila Yogesh about this, so please do not ask anything along that line. Success as a student with Srila Yogesh means keeping my mouth shut and following the instructions.
I have the confidence that if I need to know something about this, he will tell me beforehand. There is no need to allow my mind to come up with questions and then to interrogate him about it. My mind is not directing this and does not have the required intelligence to know what to ask about this.

