Rewards in the Afterlife
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 3 years before Jul 26, 2016
MiBeloved 3 years ago
In this world, in human society if one does a criminal act and is discovered, one is held responsible for the act and is punished by the legal system of the country. If one gets a good attorney one may slide away from punishment but then one is punished indirectly by having to pay legal fees.
If however one does a good act, society may not acknowledge it. Say for instance that I rob some old fellow who sat on the park bench. If the state could provide evidence, then I would be punished according to the legal codes.
But if instead I assisted the old fellow in some way, society will hardly take note of it. Many of my good acts go unrewarded but my cranial acts are put on high alert and I am subjected to legal procedure and may not be given proper legal representation in court.
So why are my good acts not fittingly rewarded?
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I wrote the above as a precursor to an experience which I had in the astral world last night.
I met a person who is currently deceased. This is a lady who was a contemporary of my deceased mother. This lady was all smiles when I met her and then she began to say what was on her mind. She wanted to speak to someone, whom she said was alive, to make her case. What she meant is that she wanted to discuss this with someone who still used a material body.
I told her that she could speak her mind. This is what she said:
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I am wondering about all the good things I did for people when I was alive. By religion God should have noted what I did and should have rewarded me with heavenly life after death. That has not happened. At least not yet, and it was some years now since I died.
What’s up with this? Why should anyone aspire for a pious life when in the end there will be no reward. I see other people in the astral existence who were criminals, who were very selfish, and it seems to me that it is all the same for those who were pious and those who were impious.
Hence give a reason for pious life. If the rewards are all the same after death, then taking responsibility makes no sense. We may as well be like animals and just wander around eating here and there, doing whatever comes to mind by the urges of nature within our bodies. Why check the urges to restrict the self to a pious life?
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I had no answer to this. I just stared as she said this.
colleen 3 years ago
Virtue is its own reward. If you are doing something for some kind of reward in the afterlife, it is a "bank account" of sorts. But, only you are keeping track. It is not the reward or punishment which amounts to much, but the transformation of the soul. It is for this reason that I have doubts about the efficacy of particular human endeavors. I think that they exist to ultimately reveal the futility and vanity of it all. It is only when God has redeemed us, and our virtuous behaviors flow effortlessly from our essence, that we go beyond accounting and "bank accounts," that we know the real reward is just the doing of it and, more importantly, being it.
Jettins 3 years ago
In my opinion if someone does good things for the sake of being rewarded then there's already a little problem. They already missed the entire reason for their existence. Instead we should understand and learn about ourselves because this empowers us to find the proper guidance to solve the issues on our own. She obviously wanted someone or something else to solve her problem. Advance spiritual beings don’t want leeches attached to them I can assure you of this one. Many empty promises have been made by some religions if you ask me. Besides, if we do something good so what? Get over it. This reward system was constructed to control mass consciousness. If I was to start my own spiritual inspiration speaking fest I would have to first start with the reward system to entice others so it sounds more inspiration, otherwise what’s the point right? You all see the problem here? I don’t like doing that it’s silly. And why is older information usually considered the most reliable just because it's older? Maybe the better teachings should be buried to be discovered centuries later.
If the rewards are all the same after death, then taking responsibility makes no sense.
It is the doing/existing that is the reward, and not the “reward” in itself. If ignoring your own destructive behavior feels good to you, then this will be your reward. If your constructive behavior feels good to you, then this will be your reward. It’s simple.
We are the manifestation of ourselves, get over it.
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Michael, I know what you mean about not knowing what to say. Not long ago I encountered what could have been the famous Zaecharia Sitchin. I fell to sleep listening to an interview of his. Shortly after I arrived in a house and saw a man that looked and spoke just like he did.
I asked him what he knew about out of body experiences. What he said surprised the hell out of me. It was very coherent and philosophical at the same he was really scared shitless about the subject and was trying to hide it. It made me speechless. He also kept saying not to do anything that would scare his wife as a prevention and that he would like me if I didn't.
devaPriya Yogini 3 years ago
Did you know her well enough in life to know if she did non-virtuous acts that would cancel out the virtuous ones that she is recalling, but she's failing to see what she did that wasn't good?
MiBeloved 3 years ago
This was a very pious person who did much teaching service.
