Question for Michael on Sex You! Book
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 3 years before Mar 09, 2016
Alfredo 3 years ago
Michael!
A while back I took a vow of celibacy, the yogi that did that is called Brahmachari Vidyaranya, a name given to me by Swami Jyotirmayananda.
Then, by the grace of God and Gurus, I was lucky to find you and read the Sex You! book. There I learned all about the push by ancestors and other competitors in the astral plane.
As you mentioned in a post recently to someone else (gentleman working full-time in job with several good looking women), the fact that he was able to understand that tendency to look at the women as a push from the astral was already a great psychological step forward. This I have already internalized too, and can detach myself when before my eyes could be glued to certain parts. This is good. Thank you!
However, from my dreams and also your book, I have learned that this vow is like when you try to carry water in a wicker basket. In other words, my dreams, however much less often than before, tell me my subtle body is probably having a ball on the other side.
So...what to do? I need some help on this.
Thanks in advance.
MiBeloved 3 years ago
It is interesting that an old boy like you is having problems with sex desire and this is reminiscent of the story (some say it is a legend only) of Akbar, the King of India, where some yogi informed him that even in old age on the death bed, a male retains the interest in sexual intercourse.
Supposedly the king could not accept that as truth. And so the yogi took the king to a hospice where some old boys were spending their last days. While the king was at the bed of a man who was about to give off his last breath, the yogin arranged for a foxy young girl to pass there in skimpy clothing, and the old boy who was on his last, raised his neck and head and looked greedily at the woman.
Akbar then understood that sex is here to stay and it won’t be shoved off by old age.
Subtle sex or sex using the subtle body is even more permanent of a feature. Getting rid of that is dead letter.
I am sorry to be the one to bring bad news.
Unless you can develop a yoga siddha body using the very same sex-crazed subtle form, it is not possible to rid the psyche of sex interest.
What you can do however is to keep up spiritual practice and develop the keenest insight whereby you can at least understand who you are meeting for sex in the astral regions and what energy underlines specific encounters.
Alfredo 3 years ago
Michael Wrote: [I am sorry to be the one to bring bad news.]
Alfredo’s Reply:
On the contrary...who else better qualified to bring the bad news?
Thank you very much!
Will keep up the good fight.
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Kundalini is the culprit!
Alfredo 3 years ago
Michael Wrote: [Kundalini is the culprit!]
Alfredo’s Reply:
Oh, yeah, I know, I called it before "Force of Nature" after
Sri Aurobindo's teaching, it is blind, strong, and does not
discriminate.
What I did not know it was how to control it, and that's the thing,
trying not to criticize others, how close to the chest some teachings are kept
and you keep on reading the yogi does this and that but the how is rarely given, and that was the gist of the dream I posted the other day called "The Pissed off yogi".
MiBeloved 3 years ago
Control of kundalini yogic style is done by raising it daily, pushing it through the lower chakras by infusing it with energy and thus causing it to enter a higher level of its operations.
Until finally one causes it to become sucked up into the base of the brain.
And then one destroys it.
All of this has to be done while also monitoring its behavior which amounts to being strict with the yamas and niyamas in what Patanjali called mahavrat or the great commitment to stay on the straight and narrow because of seeing that this is in one's interest ultimately.
It does not matter how high one goes or how much samadhi one says that one enters, if kundalini is not force fed a higher type of energy by some means, then it will keep up its old game plan and one will always go up in meditation and then come down to continue the vulgar activities which kundalini has a stake in.
Stated in street language, this vulgarity is spearheded by sexual intercourse. There are many other aspects to this but sex is the central issue because sex is linked to reproduction. By linking sex to reproduction, material nature has got this situation under lock and key.
Kundalini has to be kicked daily with a forceful shove from breath infusion in any which way. One has to find a way to raise kundalini on a daily basis. Otherwise, it is all a sham, because kundalini will continue to execute its survival game, and the core-self will have to go along with it, as it tries to rationalize why it just cannot become fully free from material nature.
Someone sits to meditate and he or she has not raised kundalini and cannot do so, or has never heard about kundalini, or imagines and visualizes it being raised. These are all jokes. Kundalini loves this because in this type of practice, it can silently keep its position and cause the psyche to again come back to basics, to vulgar activities.
