Pulsations and bending of the subtle body?

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Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 16, 2018

Jettins 6 years ago

Experience #649 from June 6, 2012 called “Pulsations and bending of the subtle body?” I woke up at 4:30 am in the morning after about three hours of sleep. I went to the recliner in the living room to try to induce an out of body experience, or to attempt becoming aware during an out of body experience. Sleeping in the living room is something I don't usually do, but I felt like trying something different. I lay down started to relax my body. I must've been aware for about 20 to 30 min. I was able to focus my thoughts fairly well because my mind didn't have the tendency to be wandering around too much. I was gently twisting my eyes a certain way in an attempt to mimic the emergence of trance states. It is simply something that has been unintentionally happening as I am entering trance states. So I thought if I were to try focus my mind, my eyes and my vision the way it feels as I am entering trance, then it would be more likely to trigger my awareness when it actually happens.

There was a gap in consciousness. I felt my vision shift and the subtle sensations of entering trance states. I see an image forming in my vision. I thought to myself,” I should tell Michael about this one”. The vision had some resemblance to an 8-ball, it was black and it had a white in the middle and then another black circle in the middle of that. It was floating in what appeared to be 3-D blackness because there were some tiny sparks of light in the blackness. The ball would rotate as I focused my vision to into the trance. All at the same time I could feel pulsations in the lower half of my subtle body, from the belly button down. The pulsations varied between two pulsations and three pulsations per second.

Yoga pose

The lower half of my body was lifting itself up and bending towards my head. I decided to stay there and explore on it a bit. I realized I could decrease or increased the speed of the pulsations and the movement of the subtle body up or down focusing my vision a certain way. When my legs reached my head I thought it would hurt to fold myself all the way. At this point I had lost lucidly in the process of experimenting. I think that's the reason why I thought it could hurt. I am not used to doing such type of experimentation; I think it's the reason why I lost lucidity as I was doing it. The particular frames of references are somewhat unknown to me.

Yesterday evening before going to sleep I picked up my old notes from a yoga exercise program. I don't know too much about it but is supposed to be a beginner Yoga poses to help raise Kundalini safely and some breathing techniques. In one of the poses I did the shoulder stand and then bend the legs forward similar to what I experienced above. I thought I would mention as it could have a relationship I don't know.

I woke from this about two hours later. I then went to my magical recliner and had an incredible experience indeed. I gained key insight in real time on the psyche of some of those that have died. Why beings disappear and what causes the fluctuations in their energy and what causes the psyche to become dysfunctional. I also gained access into an incredibly beautiful new true dimension a being was guarding. I might write about this one.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins' wrote:

So I thought if I were to try focus my mind, my eyes and my vision the way it feels as I am entering trance, then it would be more likely to trigger my awareness when it actually happens.

MiBeloved's Response:

This method of observing how the trances occur of their own accord, and then mimicking those actions of the psychic nature is a classic procedure of kriya yoga. You may begin to teach this formally to others, how to do this. It is a very subtle process but you can teach it to others and it will, if they take to it, accelerate their progression.

Instead of visualizing and thinking, if one can just relax and let nature do its thing, and observe her operations, then later one can mimic these acts.

Believe it or not many ideas which were made practical by scientists came about because of their observations of the operation of nature but people feel otherwise that science is outclassing nature. There is not one single thing that we have done scientifically which was not an adaptation from what nature already did.

There are cell phones but long before this, even primitive man, even the animals, demonstrated telepathy even though it was not as direct and obvious. Just today I was with a lady in a large building supply store. We went there to return a truck which was rented for hauling building materials. As I was walking in the store a thought appeared to me about driving the lady’s car after she signed back the rental truck which I drove for her with some materials. The thought read like this,” You should drive my car back. I do not want to stress myself in traffic.”

So then I thought, “Why should I drive the car? I drove the trunk. Now you can drive your car. It is your vehicle.”

We waited about 10 minutes before she was cleared for returning the truck and then we walked out of the store. As soon as we walked out the door the lady said this. “Take the keys. I am in no condition to drive. I am dizzy because of my health condition.”

I took the keys and drove the car. So that whole conversation occurred mentally before it occurred physically and that is telepathy. By observing how nature is doing these transmissions, we can learn how we may also do the same and also how we may induce nature to act in certain ways by putting the psyche in a certain existential posture.

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Jettins' wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

This particular observation is important and it is difficult, I know, to determine distance and location because this is psychic and not physical distance. However this seems to be the third eye in operation as well as what is called by yogis the buddhi.

Buddhi is translated to intellect in English, except that in English intellect is a function of the brain, while in yoga it is a psychic organ in the head of the subtle body.

To differentiate between the third eye and the buddhi, the first thing you must do is to identify the location of each. The third eye is always in the forehead near the skin of the forehead. That is its default position and usually it does not move from there.

The intellect is located somewhere about say half inch to about one and one half inches in the head from the third eye. The observing self which sees this is further back in the head, almost at the center of the head.

In yoga, the intellect is more important than the third eye. Actually when one first begins to meditate one may be told by a guru to focus on third eye. There is an instruction about that even in the Bhagavad Gita. Sir Paul and I way back around 1974 or so, were told to meditate in this way by Arthur Beverford. He gave us embrocating oil which was a mint camphor oil. We used to rub a little of that between the eyebrows and then sit to meditate. So that is standard.

And yet the intellect is more important and the third eye is just a joke in comparison to it. But still meditation on the third eye has value. That is for sure.

If you understand where the intellect is located, then that is a big plus. It is an invisible thing so you have to identify it by knowing its location. When the invisible bogey man comes, he cannot hide if you know which window he must enter to get into the house. As soon as there is the slightest anything at that window, you can fire the shot gun and kill him. So dealing with the intellect is like that.

And yet it can be seen. Sometimes a yogi sees it.

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Jettins' wrote:

All at the same time I could feel pulsations in the lower half of my subtle body, from the belly button down. The pulsations varied between two pulsations and three pulsations per second.

MiBeloved's Response:

These pulsations are the vibrational activities of the kundalini when it is just about to separate out the subtle body from the physical one. These vibrations occur just before one sleeps but they occur in a dimension which we are ignorant of and have no sensual perception in. Thus to us they just do not occur. In these trance states, one can observe this. There are also flashes of light and horrific cracking sounds also at this time but they cannot be heard unless you are transferred to the psychic dimension where they operate.

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Jettins' wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

The subtle body can do all the yoga postures, even the most difficult ones because it is not hampered by a bony or muscular frame.

Jettins 6 years ago

Thanks for the information. So the purpose to shoot down the buddhi or the intellect while in trance states would be to start to learn how to control the mind chatter or wondering thoughts? If this is so it is very interesting because today I had an experience that could relate to this..

In very short #651 from today. It was a non-lucid but very vivid dream. I found myself in a situation where my thoughts could very easily be used to move objects around. But there was a problem because my head felt a bit dissy and I could feel a wave of static charge around my head. It felt like my telekinetic abilities where highly amplified and I couldn't function like usual because I would randomly cause things to move around by barely thinking or looking at them. Someone told me he could feel electromagnetic waves coming of me. So in the dream I decided to go lay down and put my mindfold mask in my eyes so as not to scare people with the movement of things. It felt like I was in a state of being where could have destroyed all the entire dream scenario if I had let myself become rampant. But also build and re-create beauty if I had had the proper mindset.

Would you say that my experience represents an increase in energy flow? Or could it be interpreted more specifically to say that I do not have control of this new energy flow with the intellect yet? I am not certain if this is related to what you mentioned but it appears to me that there could be a link.

I will talk about mimicking the actions to induce trance states to those that I think could benefit.

Thanks for the help.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

The preliminary purpose is to control the mind chatter and wondering thoughts. When that is achieved other objectives come into focus in relation to the same intellect organ.

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Jettins wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

I get what you are suggesting here but from the point of view of yogis, the importance of these siddhis or perfectional powers to do the impossible is the recognition that the subtle body has various powers according to the environment it is in.

The same subtle body which can disappear in one dimension will be unable to do that in another place.

We learn from science in the twentieth century that if we were on another planet with the same physical form we use now, we could do some fantastic things like jump 30 feet which is impossible for us to do on earth.

This is not to minimize the fact that one astral body may do something in a certain dimension which other subtle bodies in that same dimensions cannot achieve. For instance on this planet there are Olympic games where human beings with particular bodily skills outpace other human beings.

But if you take the fastest human runner, he could not run as fast as a cheetah. There is a limit to how much a human being can excel in each area. So you might be in an astral place where you are the only one whose astral body can do certain things but even there, the important thing is that the subtle body has changed frequencies and enters an existential situation where it can exhibit what is impossible in other places for that same subtle form.

Location is everything in this case, to identify the location of that astral place and to note that in there the astral form exhibits certain powers.

Moving thoughts with objects instantly has to do with time warps. On this planet if I want to move a mountain, I can do so by using dynamite and a large bulldozer. But it might take months or even years. But that is so because the body I currently use is limited to a certain perspective of time. It may be that whatever we do here is actually being done instantly but to us it is stretched out because we are in a time warp.

In chapter 11 of Bhagavad Gita, Arjuna saw the warriors who were before him in their supernatural configurations and at that place, before the battle, they were being killed by Krishna and his personal expanded personality agents. So either this is some mental nonsense in the mind of Arjuna or it is that on that supernatural level everything which was to happen physically thereafter was already played out, and the physical reality was just the adapted shadow result of that.

Consider also if you go out and look at the sun. Whatever you see is the past. People follow these popular New Age gurus who are touting the present as the only reality but really are we in the present? Whose present moment are we in?

If we use sunlight, we are using it several minutes after it left the surface of the sun, so in that sense we are living in the sun’s past, in a time warp. If I look at the sun whatever I see happened some minutes before, and I am seeing the sun’s past.

Arjuna went on to fight in the Battle of Kurukshetra but he knew that the whole thing was a shadow replay of something that happened previously on the supernatural level.

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

Location is everything in this case, to identify the location of that astral place and to note that in there the astral form exhibits certain powers.

Jettins' comment:

Indeed, it appears that the subtle body has abilities depending on the dimension it is in. In this case, I think it was a self created dimension as I was not attuned to physic perceptions. Some dimensions appear to be more 'stable' than others related to the dimension of being one has projected into. "Being" determining which dimension is accessible it appears.

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MiBeloved wrote:

but really are we in the present? Whose present moment are we in?

Jettins' comment:

To me it feels like I am living in a past. Every time I think, it's already in the past. This might sound strange but it feels to me that this is not the only place I am living because when I go into the Astral Realms it feels like I wake-up in another time. People I recognize that I am not suppose to recognize because I've never met in this life. Things that I've been told that I can do, things that I've been told I should remember. Inclinations that I only have in the Astral side of things the first time I thought about them. Maybe we are just aware of one little piece of things. Playing out the story in one dimension, (the physical one) when everything else has already been completed. Which brings me to the idea that maybe we are really just imagining time. And time being a construct to create the state of readiness required to them be able to perceive other, and then other dimension of reality. Thanks for the dream interpretation.

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MiBeloved wrote:

they were being killed by Krishna and his personal expanded personality agents

Jettins' comment:

I never realized this book touched on these kind of things. It's interesting you mention this because in yesterday's experience #560 It appears I saw a version of something similar going on. The dimension the being was in as I entered into his domain was behaving like a mean spirited master controlling and manipulating his minions. In short, I helped him realize that he didn't remember the motivations behind his behavior and that he should reflect on the motives of his impulses. There was also some interesting sensing or intuition that helped me communicate to him the things that would reach him.

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