Problems with Third Eye meditations

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Date: Posted 3 years before Jul 13, 2016

bandika 3 years ago

Hi everyone,

I’ve read some books and articles about meditation (especially opening the third eye), and i’ve been practicing them for 1,5 years. I’m trying to be familiar with as many methods as possible. My main interest is to open my third eye. I’ve tried many different techniques, but still haven’t succeed that.

When I close my eyes, with a little concentration, I can see some faint greenish lights in my third eye area (circles and spirals moving away from me). After some days of practice it’s almost always brighter, but I’ve practiced that for months and nothing more has happened. I’ve tried to focus into the middle of that, but it was also unsuccessful.

The other way I know is to visualize bright light along the sushumna and flames at chakra locations to send energy there and open them. This way I can feel energy and sometimes heat there.

I have also tried kriya yoga techniques (spinal breathing, om japa in chakra locations, shambavi mudra, yoni mudra). After some spinal breathing and om japa exercises, when I concentrate to each chakra (from down to up, excepting the crown), and eventually between and a little bit behind my eyebrows, I feel energy going upward along my spine and reaches that area. That time my eyes turn upward spontaneously, and it’s like if my consciousness would move towards into the center. However, I’m not able to see anything even if I’m concentrating into the center of the movement, nothing more happens.

I think something is missing from my practices or I do something wrong. I don’t see any white or blue colored star, or any other thing just sometimes faint greenish or golden light. Can anyone help me?

MiBeloved 3 years ago

bandika Wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

It is best that you tell us what you tried and where you got the method from, if it is from a book, from a yoga guru, or if it was inspired in your mind. This will help us to filter through what you already did and then show where you applied the advice properly or did not use it for a sufficient period of time.

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bandika Wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

Psychic perception is in the subtle body. In some cases it has to be developed there before you can use it. Even though using drugs may cause a person to shift over into the perception level of the subtle body, still mostly, one cannot just switch over into i. Therefore behind closed eyes one will find darkness with or without speckled light and no subtle perception.

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bandika Wrote:

The other way I know is to visualize bright light along the sushumna and flames at chakra locations to send energy there and open them. This way I can feel energy and sometimes heat there.

MiBeloved's Response:

Personally I do not use visualization in meditation but there might be others on the forum who were successful by that method. It all depends on your individual case and if your psyche responds to visualization or not.

I did practice visualization in the 1970s but it never worked for me to bring about real supernatural perception. Therefore I abandoned it. Of course without visualization it means that you may have to spend years meditating before getting any result, but I was left with no choice but to do this.

To perceive kundalini I use breath infusion practice, which is also known as breath of fire and also as kapala bhati and bhastrika pranayama practice. This causes kundalini to rise for sure. There is no visualization of it because of the forceful rise of it up the spine into the head when the breath infusion is done properly.

Where do you live?

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bandika Wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

Try to list this one by one and tell us if you had a guru, and from whom you got a particular method and as to how long you practiced it.

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bandika Wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

First of all you have this expectation of seeing a star. Wherefrom did you derive this conviction?

bandika 3 years ago

Thank you for the answer!

I live in Europe, Hungary. I don’t have guru. Few years ago I met somebody who was experienced in meditation. I had just some talks with him, that inspired me to meditate. Basically I learnt from books or articles.

To open my third eye, I tried to use a Surat Shabd Yoga technique. It is from a book, which title is “Kriya yoga: Synthesis of a Personal Experience” by Ennio Nimis. A part of the book is found on this site. I also found a pdf file which summarizes the essence of this technique:

http://www.bahaistudies.net/asma/suratshabdyoga2.pdf

I did exactly the same which is written here. After some days of practice I was able to perceive circle or spiral shaped lights which moved away to an imaginary point in front of me. A few weeks later I realized that sometimes it changed to a shape of an eye, or very similar to that. I have no idea what happened, or what I did differently. I kept trying this practice but I have never seen this shape since that (just circles). After 2 months of trying, I decided to switch to other methods, because I couldn’t imagine how to make progress this way. I don’t use any kind of drugs.

The visualization techniques that I used (for approximately 4 months) can be found here:

http://www.meditationexpert.com/meditation-techniques/m_third_eye_meditation.html

http://www.meditationexpert.com/yoga-kung-fu/y_kundalini_yoga_and_chakra_meditation.htm

I imagined a bright flame and a mantra which is coming from the third eye area and sometimes I did that to other chakras (throat, heart, navel). I could feel energy or heat there but nothing else happened. I practiced the second technique with a little modification. I visualized a bright tube along the central channel which turned forward towards my third eye at the center of my head, and nothing more. I perceived a little light in my head during that, and felt something in the area where I concentrated.

I have been practicing kriya yoga for 4 months. All of my knowledge is from the book above. My daily routine consists of spinal breathing, om japa, and mental pranayama exercises. I always imagine the way of the energy from the base chakra upwards along my spine and at the region of pineal gland it goes towards my third eye (between the eyebrows) and do the same backwards. During mental pranayama I can feel that some energy start moving upwards spontaneously, from the chakra to which I am concentrating. I also concentrate to the area between my eyebrows, then sometimes I start to feel vibration there, and later it’s like if something would pull me to there. However this way I can’t see anything just some faint random lights.

I also do regularly a basic meditation technique which is about to watch our thoughts as a 3rd person observer. During this practice I feel that my thoughts are moving away and I start to feel very comfortable. I found the details of the practice on this webpage:

http://www.meditationexpert.com/meditation-techniques/m_vipassana_meditation_techniques.htm

There is a free downloadable ebook on that link written by William Bodri. Its title is ”Learn how to meditate - The Basic Meditation Technique of Cessation-Contemplation Practice”. All of the details of that practice can be found in that.

I read from the star on some different internet sites, it is also mentioned in this forum (I hope these are the same phenomena):

http://www.aypsite.org/92.html

http://www.inselfyoga.com/m/forums/topic/Traveling-through-the-Blue-star-in-the-third-eye-area

Something similar can be found in the book of Ennio Nimis (Kriya Yoga: Synthesis of a Personal Experience Appendix 1, page: 208) „The deepest experience is when the point (Bindu) in the center of Kutastha expands into a tunnel. The awareness is pulled through it. It is like a plunge into Eternity, burning with endless joy for several seconds – you are filled with the euphoria obtained by this short but unforgettable glimpse of your eternal nature.”

MiBeloved 3 years ago

You made some effort to get to kriya practice and did your best with what was available on the Internet. That goes to your credit. However now it is time to realize that you need some personal guidance.

First the system is that you should live in an ashram (hermitage) for a while where you are under the guidance of an expert in the particular yogic discipline which you desire to master. Since you cannot do that, then the next best thing is correspondence with a teacher.

You also need to understand that if you take a part from here and a part from there, then when it all fits together it may not operate efficiently. Say for instance that you want to manufacture a motorcycle. You get some parts from an old bike which was manufactured in Russia during the Stalin era. Then you get another part which was manufactured in Germany recently. Then you get another part which was made in Japan ten years ago.

So you take these parts and hook them up. What do you think? Do you feel that the bike will run properly?

I am sure you would agree that you would be better off if you could get all the parts from one source even if you were to get all the parts from a bike which was manufactured during the time of Stalin.

Let us consider why you are trying to learn kriya yoga. That must be based on your kriya practice in some past life, which is now prompting you from the subconscious level of your mind.

Making that assumption, we are then left to wonder why it is that you cannot tap into your previous practice and then practice from that level and develop further. But this problem faces nearly everyone who has interest in kriya practice, where the subconscious level is inaccessible.

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You should look at these videos:

http://www.veoh.com/users/bhagiratha5

Go to the Videos Menu of this website and select Kundalini Yoga Videos sub-menu.

Let us know if you can get this book in Hungary, even through the Amazon Kindle eBook system, or as a paperback book:

Book Link

Alfredo 3 years ago

Italian Ennio Nimis practiced the Kriya Yoga of Paramahansa Yogananda, and became disenchanted with the Italian branch's wheeling and dealing, so he let it all hang out and as a result he wrote the e-book you mentioned. I had an email correspondence with him several years ago. The book is quite good, and the details of the different Kriyas are nowhere to be found like that. They are also very accurate, I can testify to that up to the 2nd Kriya, they are supposed to be secret. Ennio received a lot of heat for it. I just posted his book in 3 parts in the pdf file section here.

It is interesting to see that you are able to raise such a practice only from books and sheer determination.

bandika 3 years ago

My main interest is not the kriya yoga, I just heard and read a lot about opening the third eye, and tried to achieve that. My primary exercise for that was to close my eyes and try to focus to the area between my eyebrows. Fortunately I got some lights which developed into circles moving away from me, and rarely I got a shape which was similar to an eye (I don’t understand what I did differently in that case). After a few months of experimentation I decided to switch to other methods, because I thought that I couldn’t make progress this way. Unfortunately these attempts were also unsuccessful, so I decided to ask for a help. Of course I know that these are different teachings, and this is not the best way to practice, however I hope, that an experienced meditator here can explain me what part is missing from one particular exercise, or what should I do better.

Unfortunately that book (Meditation Pictorial) is not available in my country.

MiBeloved 3 years ago

We will try to get you the book by some other means. I will send you an email through your page at Meditation Time.

Opening of third eye is part of kriya yoga process and your general interest which is intuitive at this point, indicates kriya yoga.

Sometime today please check your page for a message where we can make some effort to get you that book.

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