Practice Reports Surya - 09/12/2012
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Date: Posted 5 years before Sep 14, 2017
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Wed 09/12/2012
AM Practice: Still going through my growing pains in the form of the back pain. I am also experiencing a stiff neck. That is not worth commenting on as these things are normal from time to time.
Again warm up consisted of about half the time of the full session (aside from meditation).
Stomach burning posture(s) were attempted, but they are so elusive to me that none could be really performed satisfactorily.
The etheric body is positively charged; compressions subsequent to postures and applied pressure under locks caused kundalini to react in little sparks.
I am focusing on my broader goal of developing internally;
And its objectives, in time range order of:
- coming down into the kneeling position after soliciting kundalini without losing pressure locks valves,
- Increasing naad connection,
- Focusing on more concentration during practice.
- Improving dream realm extensions.
For more concentration during practice:
I now use earplugs during bhastrika. It could be similar to hearing the factory from inside and becoming aware of all the machines versus hearing the factory from outside. I find it worth getting used to.
Naad was easily tuned to and was loud enough during meditation. It was also listened to intermittently in bed.
Dream recall contained an instance that will be detailed in dream journal:
- Dream dealing with a whole lot of interactions with family as well as nudity.
...I was in park with family sprawling on the grass when come pass walking a young female pushing a baby in a stroller. She was in the nude and her pubic area was unusually/disarmingly attractive (there was something about it)... Then I am with 3 female coworkers with me there. I made a joke to them saying that: "well, no one told me this was allowed". They all laughed at my joke.
Even though socially I haven't joined co-workers to any of the outside work events, socializing and activities they routinely organize and cringe at the idea. I still want to crack jokes with them in the subtle!
That is part of the sum of my life.
The rest of the dream consisted of interactions with family,.. my father was there ...we had to meet...my sister was having car issue with her front tires (they looked like a stranded deer).
I am aware that her "suburban" is getting old. I am still composing this very intense email dealing with family matters.
Reading was not managed.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
unlimitedsun wrote:
I was in park with family sprawling on the grass when come pass walking a young female pushing a baby in a stroller. She was in the nude and her pubic area was unusually/disarmingly attractive (there was something about it)...
MiBeloved's Response:
really!!!!
that is strange... yogi finds sexually alluring female with exposed genitalia to be attractive..
ancestors talking, saying
"Never mind the baby which is the outcome of pregnancy, focus on the pleasure which we offer before the event. Your only action should be to focus on getting that pleasure. Just follow the exposed lady to bed, my little man, and then you will see the real meaning of responsibility."
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It is like the credit card economy, very similar, in fact nature had the system going long before us humans got on to it.
Have sex now.
Pay with your life later.
Jettins 5 years ago
Interesting
Marcia Beloved 5 years ago
Wondering if a yogi ever reaches the point of leaving this physical body, and even if he/ she still requires another birth in an earth-world, does not apply pressure upon anyone to sexually engage to provide the body.
That would be a high form of celibacy, indeed!
MiBeloved 5 years ago
The pressure to sexually engage to provide a body comes from the kundalini energy. In a sense the yogi has nothing to do with it. It is independently engaged by the various kundalini forces in response to each other.
Even if the yogi is sincerely renounced, that will add up to nothing if the kundalini force is still present in his or her psyche with the same survival needs.
It is very important to understand intellectually that the core-self is not the kundalini and that the kundalini has totally different interests and will pursue its aims come what may.
It is even more important to study one's nature after getting some basic intellectual views about kundalini. By studying one's nature one can at least understand the percentage of power one has in the psyche and one can then take up the task of increasing the core-self's authority and decreasing the kundalini's command over the physical and subtle bodies. Once you see that you are not in control and that the psychological adjuncts are the bosses, you can then plan a rebellion.
If the rebellion fails then you have nothing to lose, even though that is a qualified statement because some people who decided to wrestle control from kundalini have ended up in a psychiatric ward. The best plan is to plan your rebellion in secret so that even your kundalini which is so dear to you have no idea of your plan, and then begin taking power from it inch by inch over a long period of time.
Kundalini may not be rated as a person, as a self, but that does not in any way affect its effective control of the psyche, because it has one thing going for it which is instinctual intelligence. It is sentient in that sense.
One person who ruthlessly suppressed kundalini was Gautama Buddha but he has a supreme determination which no limited entity can have. Another person who did the suppression but not as well as Buddha was Hiranyakashipu, who had ulterior motives. There was the boy Dhruva of Srimad Bhagavatam fame. He wanted universal control in real terms not the pipe dream crap of the New Agers. When he got control of kundalini fully, then Dhruva realized that his objectives were childish.
It is not possible to do what Buddha did because he is a Personality of Godhead. The value of his life is that it gives an inside view of what it would take to wrestle full control from kundalini. Taking hints from what he did we can avoid certain pitfalls and get ready for certain gory battles with kundalini.
You don’t have to be as successful as he was. In fact you cannot be because you just do not have that sort of existential power. But you can do a little bit of it, following his advisories. If he sees that you are taking time to pay attention to what he said and to do as he suggested, he will give you a hand and you will be able to push kundalini in a corner where it will lose its authority over the psyche.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
How much I like this below; is very much.
"It is even more important to study one's nature after getting some basic intellectual views about kundalini. By studying one's nature one can at least understand the percentage of power one has in the psyche and one can then take up the task of increasing the core-self's authority and decreasing the kundalini's command over the physical and subtle bodies. Once you see that you are not in control and that the psychological adjuncts are the bosses, you can then plan a rebellion."
My dreams are helping me understand the pervasive domination of kundalini. Intellectually I want to will the Self, but practically I am acting solely for kundalini, hassling and bustling all day long for material and social aims and then to expect self-realization even in my dreams when I am most "open"...
I want to rebel at least at some level, because my dreams depress me, well now that I am able to recall them again. Recording them is a drag - but must be done, so I comply. Dealing with work environment all day for the carrot stick, and family to fulfill obligations, and then to find out that after retiring in sleep, hoping to get away from them is just a dream (projected, lucid, mental or otherwise...)
I want to rebel for having had a couple higher realm dreams and experiencing that they left me high in spirit for days on end. Now, generally understood a successful rebellion is carefully planned with particular attention to areas of weaknesses, so a cohesive plan with goals and tied in objectives may be delineated.
