Practice Report; Surya - 09/29/2012
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Date: Posted 5 years before Sep 28, 2017
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Sat. - 09/29/2012
AM Practice:
Kriya Yoga session was for 70 minutes, including 10 minutes of warm up; followed by an attempt to meditate for 30 minutes.
Kundalini was regular, reliable, intense and bright in color from the first couple of poses of warm up. It felt also physical on a couple of occasions including during warm-up. It was generalized to include hands and feet particularly during warm up.
Body-core-blast as previously explained is illustrated below:
Meditation:
Finer/inner naad was audible but not constant. Generalized/ outer naad seemed very loud. Effort was made to stay in the back right with finer naad.
Below is a naad I used to hear some months ago. It is also different now.
Goals/Objectives are observed.
Book Reading consisted of the "Yoga Sutras".
Mundane Subtle Interactions (4): implicated a brother, a child, MIB, and sex.
:-) took down notes of dream, but the notes were not extensive enough. Now, it is hard to review the dream even though it was clear.
...I recall Michael mentioning about his Guru, and how he was wanting... for the purpose of correspondence... him and others... an ashram they followed... year...
I think I was being lectured about questioning Guru, possibly from yesterday’s correspondence on the site.
:-) ...I lost semen as my assistant sitting close to me touches me by surprise. I know we can't do that ... she disappears. But then I feel a need to feel the stimulating sensations. Yet I am aware that I do not self-stimulate either (with hands). So I realize that I am doing self-fellatio, and I am astonished, and then I can see that it is actually my subtle head doing it, and I can see my upper subtle body performing, as the rest of the subtle body was fused into the gross body.
Pool 5 years ago
Wow! your session are getting longer and longer, nice!
unlimitedsun wrote:
"I lost semen as my assistant sitting close to me touches me by surprise. I know we can't do that ... she disappears. But then I feel a need to feel the stimulating sensations. Yet I am aware that I do not self-stimulate either (with hands). So I realize that I am doing self-fellatio, and I am astonished, and then I can see that it is actually my subtle head doing it, and I can see my upper subtle body performing, as the rest of the subtle body was fused into the gross body"
Pool's comment:
Many times when I get those type of dreams and feel the arousal sensation my mind tells me to back off from it to avoid going any further than that. When that happens part of me is conscious in the physical form making me control and stopping from going any further in order to avoid spilling semen.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Thomer,
You wrote:
Many times when I get those type of dreams and feel the arousal sensation my mind tells me to back off from it to avoid going any further than that. When that happens part of me is conscious in the physical form making me control and stopping from going any further in order to avoid spilling semen.
MiBeloved's Response:
The big value of the human form of life as compared to the angelic forms in the subtle paradises, is that the human form can clamp down on morality. The subtle body is inconsistent with morality and has no respect for it.
Because of reproduction on the physical level, morality comes to fore. It faces one and makes one realize the thing which is called responsibility. One has to use this physical body to cause the subtle one to adhere to morality. It is not an easy achievement but it can be done.
Because of the subtle body, the physical one makes moral breaches and because of the subtle body, if one can pull it off, the subtle one may become reformed.
In the story of the Ramayana by Valmiki, Rama tells Sugriva, "I had to cut you down because you were penetrating your younger brother's wife sexually."
This means that the divine beings come down and try to show us the path of responsible social behavior. It is a hard lesson to master because of the subtle body.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
It is truly a sticky one. I understand that so long as semen is produced the issue is there. And the process starts in the subtle body where it needs to be addressed for ultimate avoidance, and true celibacy. I know, how long the way to that faucet?
In the meantime, I accept that a normal healthy male in reproductive age will produce 1500 sperm cell a second. And, so long as there is no extra-will on my part to exacerbate the reproductive organ and the body as a result of ejaculation, I feel that the goals towards improving the quality of practice can be observed.
I am trying to get away from a previously held semen vampiristic mind set, whereby I used to consider emission as a no no. And it is true that such attitude reflects in the dreams. Instead I consider the external factors that can influence the related hormonal production(s); to include diet, age, general health or inherent condition of the body, visuals, associations, ancestral obligations mainly.
Because Kundalini regulates other eliminatory functions I presume it is also doing its job by finding a let out for the seeds that are thus produced especially when that is done at a rate greater to that at which they may be reabsorbed in the system over a couple of months later.
Ultimately, how long should or can a male who has not curbed the tendency in the subtle body go without losing seeds?
Regardless of the answer, how much is gained so long as the tendency is there at the root?
Thanks for your comment. Let's keep all three (or five?) eyes on it.
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Oh, when I started composing my reply Michael's wasn't there yet. I guess I took too long, well there it is...
My work schedule sometimes allows me to put enough time in practice at least once a week. For the rest, it is during weekends when I am not pressed to run outside, or simply when my insomnia hits.
And when up and sleepless in the middle of the night practicing comes easier to me than say reading. I have been rather athletic throughout my life; I was one of those you would see running in the streets of New York City in the middle of the night, so it is not a far stretch when I get into yoga like that. I wish I would put into yoga as much efforts, energy and zeal as I did the other stuff.
MiBeloved 5 years ago
unlimitedsun's query:
Ultimately, how long should or can a male who has not curbed the tendency in the subtle body go without losing seeds?
MiBeloved's Response:
This is a question you need to ask material nature and it should give you an answer which is true for your psyche and which may not hold for the psyche of another.
In the self interest it may be worth your while to turn to material nature and let her show you the answer.
Pool 5 years ago
MiBeloved wrote:
"Because of reproduction on the physical level, morality comes to fore. It faces one and makes one realize the thing which is called responsibility. One has to use this physical body to cause the subtle one to adhere to morality. It is not an easy achievement but it can be done."
Pool's Reply:
I did read that it's not enough just for the physical body, more important is controlling the subtle body because it's a pleasure seeker.
I read the verses in Sex You! and Meditation Pictorial about it, While I don't think a method has been really mentioned on how to get the job done.
It's probably something I will have to discover, learn about, and apply myself. Not an overnight thing obviously. If changing a physical habit takes a lot of time, definitely changing something you don't yet have any control over (subtle body) takes much more time.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
We are a work in progress. And as you mentioned we have a wealth of information and knowledge to proceed with.
