Practice Report; Surya - 09/18/2012

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Date: Posted 5 years before Sep 20, 2017

unlimitedsun 5 years ago

Tue 09/18/2012

(Previous) PM practice was tantamount to a warm up session with kundalini effect.

Practice:

Session allowed for critical aspects of routine only.

Kundalini was raised but in a non-dramatic way (in controlling kneeling position).

A dream was recalled during practice and is detailed in dream section.

Meditation did not allow naad to be paid its due attention. A work situation popped up and by the time I realized the 10 minutes passed by. Being under pressure to be on time at work transferred me mentally in the work place in a very intense manner mentally.

Naad is listened to during nighttime.

Goals/Objectives are maintained.

Reading was not managed.

Dreams consisted of a lot of social situations, family, relationships and progeny...

I recall that I realized that I would remember dreams thinking that I wouldn’t forget any of it (wanting to keep sleeping), and then by the time I am up they are gone into oblivion. So I willed to open my eyes and write them down.

Dream recording seemed neurotic. I awoke over five times in the course of the night to take notes on different dreams. As a result I woke up later than usual, skipped through practice, and meditation was affected.

This is too many dreams to record in the practice log. So I will send them to Michael separately and aspects that are pertinent to the site will eventually transfer over.

But here are some of them:

:-) At some point during the night I must have dreamed a yoga posture, because I remembered it during practice.

I was in backward bending posture, similar to some that I do, doing practice and there was an intense tingling sensation about the feet. But I could also see all around the feet just like mist the tingling sensation particles. They were also outside of the physical body.

As it was happening I recall only focusing on the mist particles and the intensity which was significantly more than the usual, not so much that they were also outside of the physical body.

:-) ..I am standing on some church grounds talking to a man of the cloth about relationship... I am with friend who hands me a bunch of letters that he has kept for a long time. The letters were of previous relationships who were trying to get in touch with me. So I asked him; "why have you not passed these on sooner?", he replied that he kept on forgetting. So I thought to myself in the dream that although they were not getting any replies these women kept writing me. One in particular astonished me because she had included pieces of a pizza we had eaten together in her letter (?!) I wondered how she was able to do that. I thought that she perhaps had them frozen in the meantime...

As I walked to go visit my mom I thought that she would know about the letters and these women (maybe I would tell her). I was thinking of what she would tell me (you can really marry at least one of them, if you were serious about this it's a done deal). So I was thinking that you reply "my guru has the last word on that". But in reality I would never tell her that as a reply.

From this dream I want to ask if dreams can teach lessons in the form of imagery, like a novel or a movie; even based on lessons learned. From the look of it these situations address the past, but is there more to them for me to figure out?

:-) I should ask if I am raising kundalini then why I am not making progress. This is an oversimplification of the question, because I recall a part where I could see a just like liquid raising in a thermometer, something rising from below the shorts level to my mid section, and then I wondered what I think is the question I just asked. The color of it (don't know what it could have been) was dark, and did not appear as a vibrant dynamic energy form.

Addendum: while writing this report, naad perception changed to a sharp and distinct frequency that could be heard clearly to the right. It was also very quiet in the mind when it presented, as if only that sound was there. It gradually changed to a different one which lasted longer before returning to my regular frequency.

MiBeloved 5 years ago

unlimitedsun's query:

MiBeloved's Response:

You can use dreams for anything you like. You can extract from dreams all sorts of meanings. People do that.

The way I see it is that the dream world is just another world like this physical world. Therefore if you are using your physical life as a form of imagery to learn from, then do the same thing in the dream world.

The dream world is a world running parallel to this one with its own events just as this world has events. Whatever meanings you are extracting from the events in this world, do the same in dreams.

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unlimitedsun's query:

:-) I should ask if I am raising kundalini then why I am not making progress.

MiBeloved's Response:

How do you know for sure that you are not making progress? Is a child in kindergarten repeating an alphabet and saying numbers after a teacher, making progress?

Why should the child feel that he has to make progress? What is that? The child needs to trust that his parents are making the proper decision by taking him to the place which he does not like to be at which is the kindergarten classroom.

So long as the child goes there, he will make progress and he won’t understand what that progress is and he is not supposed to. He should not demand of himself that he should make progress.

It is not a matter of progress at that stage. Then it is a matter of parental trust. Does he trust his parents or not? And then if he does not, then can he find other parents who will give him an activity in which he will feel progress in.

At the high school level some students reach a stage where they can actually gage progress and some also do not reach that stage until college. In fact some people go through their entire lives without ever developing that sense of progress.

Ultimately your sense of progress has nothing to do with it because ultimately you are not in charge of fate. Ultimately you will have to work along with fate and if fate decrees progress for you, then so be it.

Making progress is one thing and understanding that you are is a separate matter. Make sure that your need to make progress takes place in the part of yourself which can understand what making progress is.

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And be sure to know if the question under the progress question is this:

Do I like what I am learning or what I am doing in the classroom? Many kids do not like what is happening in the classroom because their psyches are designed in such a way that they get no satisfaction or pleasure from the learning environment.

So then they complain that they are not learning anything.

How is that?

Life is a bitch isn’t it, because it is just not centered in what satisfies a person at every step.

unlimitedsun 5 years ago

Seemingly, just one of my wacky dreams. I thought of stopping my PM practice as I begun, in order to add more precision to precisely this. Because I sure don't feel that way! But as I was turning the computer on, I decided that if I dreamed it there must be some truth to it somehow, and decided to leave it as is. Still I don't know why such a dream.

As a matter of fact I believe that all things considered I more than regained my momentum, since I last practiced with some regularity. That's progress.

Paul 5 years ago

Michael Just explained one of the most important aspects of spiritual life...

All the experiences you crave so much and the craving involved in them have very little meaning at all by comparison..

Please EVERYONE especially those of you who have this image that you are a great teacher here, to enlighten humanity, or some fantasy like that.. PLEASE pick up on what he's saying. It belongs as an addendum to the Bhagavad Gita and a forward to everyone one of his books...

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