Practice Report Surya - 09/15/2012
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 5 years before Sep 17, 2017
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Practice:
I am grateful for the healing energies, as I was able to follow my routine. Warm up even as the backbone of my practice relies on satisfying downward dog posture which was done.
Decent and forceful breaths of fire afforded in postures. Body charged.
Energy was compressed and successfully ignited into sparks.
By the end of the session tingling sensations that are normally felt during meditation could be felt over the body, more in the hand and feet. Session lasted for about an hour.
Meditation lasted for about 20 minutes with 10 minutes of focus.
Naad sound was of a particularly high pitch especially at the beginning of the meditation.
I was therefore encouraged to stay within and perhaps locate the self.
Then I remembered again that I am as a new born. I can hear, and my eyes are open, but I see not with any clarity since I lack knowledge of this discrimination.
I must make an effort to reread and study meditation pictorial.
My current goal is to develop internally;
And its objectives, in order of time range are:
- Learning to come down into the kneeling position after soliciting kundalini without losing pressure through locks valves. This is giving results...
- Increasing naad connection.
- Focusing on more concentration during practice.
- Improving dream realm extensions.
For more concentration during practice:
I now use earplugs during bhastrika. It could be similar to hearing the factory from inside and becoming aware of all the machines versus hearing the factory from outside. I find it worth getting used to.
It allows me to hear the change in pitch of naad depending on assumed positions, making me think that as the etheric body charges from the breath and asanas so do the chakras react as they are churned by implied pressures. There is greater sensitivity.
For more concentration during meditation:
I am taking it more seriously as per Michael’s example to take notes on paper.
My mind is naturally trained to help me remember stuff, and it is more successful in its job than I give it credit. So long as it is not assured that the information is well memorized or properly stored in its appropriate compartment it will keep working on it; that gets in the way of focusing and remaining in the now. Once any information is put on paper there is reassurance and the mind is peaceful.
I experience similar situation with emotions, feelings and ideas.
Naad was easily tuned to and was loud enough during meditation.
It was also listened to before sleep and upon waking after dream remembrance pause.
Dreams dealt with social interests and other concerns:
:- I recall being in the presence of BhaktiTirtha Swami, the disciple of Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada who formally initiated me into Hare Krishna Parampara.
I had not seen him in the subtle in a long time, but would hear of him from Yogiraja Madhavaachrya.
I don’t recall any message as has usually been the case in my subtle encounters with him.
I was awaiting to have a darshan (audience) with him on the Gita Nagare Hare Krishna farm he was managing that Yogiraja Madhavaachrya spoke to me the first time. Just days later he arranged for me to visit him and eventually told me more about the encounter.
:- Other interactions and their details pertain to family circumstances.
Reading was not managed.
Alfredo 5 years ago
unlimitedsun wrote:
[Learning to come down into the kneeling position after soliciting kundalini without losing pressure through locks valves. This is giving results...]
Alfredo's Reply:
I have found this to be very important and difficult to master, as I tend to forget one lock here or there, in me, because I am a newbie, it is not automatic.
But...don't you solicit Kundalini in standing position after the kneeling position while applying the locks? I thought that is what one does, at least in Michael's video I thought so. Please correct me if I am doing this wrong.
Moreover...while doing this...what is the incidence of blackouts?...When I apply the locks standing, specially the lower-back-curve one, I will blackout every single time if not careful and if I were to continue applying the locks.
I have always used earplugs.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Alfredo wrote:
"I have found this to be very important and difficult to master, as I tend to forget one lock here or there, in me, because I am a newbie, it is not automatic."
unlimitedsun's Reply:
Hence one of my objectives to work on.
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Alfredo wrote:
"But...don't you solicit Kundalini in standing position after the kneeling position while applying the locks?"
unlimitedsun's Reply:
I solicit kundalini first (applying the locks) and then come down on the knees, with the locks tightly maintained (is the aim).
It is normal to be overpowered by kundalini surge if one remains standing, as there is less ability to control it.
Another advantage of "getting down" is that the surge will be more distributed, whereas standing alone will concentrate the energy to the head, that is more difficult to control, and is not the long term goal.
Now, right before kundalini is fully solicited some breathing is done in a bent over, almost a crouched over position, with the hands about the ankles. The locks are tightly applied, back straight. Then stand, locks maintained. Lower back arched in; at that point there is full soliciting. And, now go down on to the knees...(just as someone would to pray by the bed before sleep time).
You wouldn't see Michael assume that position (subsequent to kundalini surging), the reason being that he doesn't need to in order to control kundalini nor to distribute the energy.
But if you are practicing with him in person, he will make sure to tell you to come down, from the standing position, upon applying the locks.
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Alfredo wrote:
"what is the incidence of blackouts?."
unlimitedsun's Reply:
It is like assessing the incidents of snake bites with snake handlers. It depends on the skills of the handler and the snake itself.
Alfredo 5 years ago
Surya Ji!
Thank you very much for the thorough explanation.
I have always known you have much to offer here.
Your explanation is very correct. I see the logic behind it. It all makes sense now, specially to know that Michael would insist on the kneeling after the standing. I will incorporate that in my practice. It is outright dangerous not to do so, as I have confirmed in my case several times. This standing posture is indeed "full soliciting". The sequence you described is followed here exactly, up to the standing, thus only the final kneeling was missing, and it will be included from now on.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
Alfredo wrote:
I will blackout every single time if not careful and if I were to continue applying the locks.
unlimitedsun's Reply:
Alfredo Ji, would you also give more insight as to what you call blackout.
Alfredo 5 years ago
Yes, this blackout I am referring goes like this: In the standing posture, right after the kneeling ones (I use 2 or 3 variants of the kneeling asanas as per video, one with the hands behind feet, the other with the fists on front, the latter being more effective in my case). Thus, upon standing and applying the locks, specially the lower-back arching one, there is rush from bottom to the head, and if not controlled right away, it disconnects the witness totally, I will fall to the ground totally out of it, which has happened to me only on one occasion, that's why I said it could be dangerous, and I had learned to control it and hope that the kneeling addition will do so.
This blackout in full swing is always accompanied by the vision of myriad little balls or stars of different colors in the cavity of the head. It is also often accompanied by a warm feeling in the head, mainly around the ears. On one occasion, it came with a goldout, which Michael has alluded often in his writings.
Now...this is important and I suspect your inquiry hinges on this...Are these symptoms of a Kundalini arousal or simply the results of hyperventilation?
Well...you tell me, you know about this much more than me. One thing though, when I do the kneeling, soliciting asanas, at the beginning of the practice, without at least 15-20 minutes of preliminary Bhastrika in other postures, the "blackout" thing for sure will not occur. I have done them at the beginning as a matter of experiment.
This question is important for the newbies, like me.
I also think it would be important to Ichigo. You see, he has been trying for a while and tries often for a long time in one practice, and he had shared with me similar incidents.
Pool 5 years ago
"Are these symptoms of a Kundalini arousal or simply the results of hyperventilation?"
I was wondering the same long time ago, so I asked MB about it a few post back (http://www.inselfyoga.com/m/forums/topic/Practice-Session-12-7-2012)
It's been a while since last time I did the potential kundalini raising posture the one with the hands down at the ankles.. I have done it yesterday and upon standing up from it and applying the locks sometimes I still get to that blacking out state (without losing conscious).
And I am almost always doing squatting like postures and standing up from them and I don't seem to get any blackouts from them anymore.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
For the records we are sharing among neophytes, and trying to qualify the gems we are picking up along the path; and it's awesome to have Michael overseeing us. God is great!
From initially reading that it was happening every single time I thought that you may simply be referred to a kundalini blast in the head. I have usually equated blackouts with the one time you experienced as falling out; when the circuit fries and all has to stop until you reconnect.
But that is my confusion, for indeed Swamiji does say or imply that if the energy is in the head and uncontrolled external awareness may be lost.
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Hyperventilation is performed so as to charge the system. As a result kundalini is moved.
From hyperventilation if the system has not been charged, kundalini may not be bothered to move.
From hyperventilation if the system is charged, and locks are applied to pressure, kundalini will move.
Most naturally kundalini is always acting. And naturally we are always breathing.
But artificially increasing the stock of prana (when not called for), gets kundalini's attention.
I would put it like so and await corrections:
Excess-ed prana -> system charged -> pressurization (under locks) -> kundalini moves -> manifested kundalini energy.
Alfredo 5 years ago
Gurubai!
Very well summarized...I agree with your conclusions.
I also always marvel at your command of the English language.
unlimitedsun 5 years ago
You are most kind.
