Parked Cars / Money in the Astral World
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 17, 2018
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Last night I was pulled into a parallel world by a relative of mine who still uses a material body. In other words, this person is not deceased. This relative was setting up a situation to live in an adjacent subtle dimension and wanted me to be part of it. This was being done by the subconscious mind of that person, and is unknown in the conscious mind.
Actually as a yogi, I am not into relatives, because that is mostly superficial relationship based on taking a body in a certain family.
Unlike many yogis who are into oneness and who desire to merge into the Absolute, I have absolutely no interest in that. In fact I say that it is not possible to dissolve out one’s individuality and enter into an oneness. Oneness is just like the deepest sleep where the person has no sense of self during the experience. But that is all it is, an experience. Since the person has no subjective sense perception, the person is forced to conclude that nothing took place during the blank phase of deep sleep. But the person must return to differentiation later on when the sleep phase has run its course. The person pretends that he or she has the power to merge permanently but such authority over one’s existence just does not exist in the least.
Oneness or mergence is a temporary stage in which the individual has no subjective sense perception, and he or she may well interpret that lack of sensitivity as oneness.
I hear many friends speak about this oneness. We are friends but to me the situation is only an alert about the lack of subjective sense perception. For me the matter ends there.
I do have relatives but they are spiritual relatives, not biological ones which are based on this particular body. It is not that a spiritual relative might not be a physical one too. It can happen that someone who is a biological relative is also a spiritual relative but really I feel that most of my biological relatives are not related to me closely on the spiritual side.
On that side every entity is related to the other, but there are degrees of closeness just as in the case of biological kinship.
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Anyway this relative was in a parallel dimension in the astral world. There were automobiles there but these were all permanently parked. Everyone used dirt roads and the automobiles just sat there like pieces in a museum. This was strange. All the other persons we met there were deceased, only this one relative was not. Those who became deceased but who had automobiles in their last life, had autos there but none of the vehicles were used.
Everyone’s house there has a low level which was about 6 feet into the astral dirt. There was the concept of money but no currency existed there. There was no spending of money of any type but the idea of the money was in the minds of those deceased persons.
This relative of mine took me to an old man there. He smiled when he saw me and began discussing where I would live and what I would do when I would go there. He mentioned that I would have financial security and he would arrange for it.
Actually I have no intentions to going to such a place after leaving this body. I do not desire in the least to be with those persons. The old man there was a person who died to this world while his last body was elderly. His astral form looked exactly how his physical one did when he passed on.
Alfredo 6 years ago
MiBeloved wrote:
[Unlike many yogis who are into oneness and who desire to merge into the Absolute, I have absolutely no interest in that. In fact I say that it is not possible to dissolve out one’s individuality and enter into an oneness]
Alfredo's reply:
This is very revolutionary, and I appreciate that.
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MiBeloved wrote:
[I hear many friends speak about this oneness. We are friends but to me the situation is only an alert about the lack of subjective sense perception. For me the matter ends there.]
Alfredo's reply:
Thank you.
Marcia Beloved 6 years ago
Would it be correct to say that while remaining in one's own individuality, it is possible for one to reach a state where one perceives the uniform connective vibrational energy of this material creation, is overwhelmed, and loses track of one's own individuality even though, in fact, one has individuality within this energy? Could the comparison be made that just as each snowflake or grain of sand has a slightly different molecular layout than other snowflakes and grains of sand, that similarly the individual psyches of human beings are also not exactly the same? Perhaps some psyches are constitutionally more prone to losing track of their minute individuality in the vast collective energy?
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Marcia Beloved wrote:
Would it be correct to say that while remaining in one's own individuality, it is possible for one to reach a state where one perceives the uniform connective vibrational energy of this material creation, is overwhelmed, and loses track of one's own individuality even though, in fact, one has individuality within this energy? Could the comparison be made that just as each snowflake or grain of sand has a slightly different molecular layout than other snowflakes and grains of sand, that similarly the individual psyches of human beings are also not exactly the same? Perhaps some psyches are constitutionally more prone to losing track of their minute individuality in the vast collective energy?
MiBeloved's Response:
That is one way of stating it. The crux of the matter is objectivity and subjectivity. In subjective states, which genuine samadhis are, one is not allowed to be objective, and without objectivity, one loses the ability to observe, one becomes sensually blind.
This causes one to draw certain blank conclusions when one returns into objectivity.
