Parallel World / Riding giant birds
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 24, 2018
MiBeloved 6 years ago
I spent a short time in a parallel where everyone moved about riding giant birds. These birds were harnesses as people used to harness horses, except that these birds flew through the sky.
There was no language in that place. All communication was done telepathically by a transmission/reception orb which was linked to the visual perception in those subtle forms.
When I would try to speak to someone, there would be an instant switch of my attention from the vision energy to this transmission orb. Then whatever I wanted to communicate would be known in the other person’s mind. The person would stop and listen within the mind and then reply by their mind sending a reply transmission into mine.
This astral place had thick vegetation and giant trees. There were no visible residences. When one would descend from the back of a bird, one would meet someone whom one intended to meet and one would disappear with that person leaving the bird in the thick foliage.
Upon disappearing one would find oneself in another dimension with that person in a form which was invisible.
These people are supernatural all the way. Though their forms are invisible they are aware of these forms and are aware of the forms of other persons who are present. The invisibility of the forms was such that the forms were made of the clear light of that place, and so these forms were actually transparent instead of being invisible. At the residential place, everything was made of clear light and as a result nothing could be seen but everyone was detected by the light formations anyway.
I tried to talk to one of the male beings in particular, to ask where that place was located existentially in reference to an earthly astral body but at that point I disappeared from that place. I am trying to get my footing in the higher astral domains at least, so that when I am evicted from this physical body, I will have a place for residency which is not a lower astral domain, but it seems that this attempt is fruitless so far.
When I approached that individual to ask the question, he listened within his mind and I could see that he was attentive but he got a signal from somewhere or someone which caused him to de-energize my subtle body and so I found myself back near my physical form in my regular dream-astral body.
This is the response one may get when one asks stupid questions or try to squeeze information out of an advanced being.
Jettins 6 years ago
I don’t think you will get directions of that sort in my opinion. These beings only want other compatible beings in their dimensions with them. So in other words your state of being needs to fit among them. Your telepathic inclinations, abilities and other attributes must have brought you to this place, being as them. They won’t have cheats that have tricks to get there, I've tried.
MiBeloved wrote: I could see that he was attentive but he got a signal from somewhere
Jettins' comment:
This is exactly what happened when I asked a question to a guide yesterday, they can sense in which path the information will lead too. How the information will be disseminated within and then they make a determination.
I’ve noticed that advance beings don’t reveal shortcuts, a rite of passage type of thing. They only point out the way if they sense you’re on similar path. The link might have been broken because you’re already on a path that will know the answer, they sensed it. You wouldn’t have met them in the first place if you were not. It wasn’t a stupid question, it was an unnecessary one. You needed no directions. It’s the philosophy of many of the advance beings.
Very nice experience indeed.
MiBeloved 6 years ago
I was glad that you were able to make head or tail of this, because you are really digging up in astral travel stuff.
The geographic layout of the astral world is simply not happening like the physical layout on earth.
Your perspective on it is interesting.
It is more like transit through quality of the astral body as compared to transit through passage of the physical body. In the material world, we are used to moving the body but in the astral world one has to move the quality of internal contents of the astral form.
So that is a serious problem and one has to become completely reoriented. It is the reason why those who have flash OBEs on the operation table will be disappointed at the death of their bodies, when they will discover that they are not in heaven.
Partial purity, spot purity in the astral body just will not do. The entire form has to be transmuted. It is not a bad deal but from this level it sucks. Still whatever is, is. Disagreeing with it doesn't change anything.
Because of spot impurity, I have transited to hellish astral world, so I know that hell is not just something in anyone's mind and just the same because of spot purity one may transit to astral paradises to be with deities (gods/God). Staying there permanently is an entirely separate issue.
Jettins 6 years ago
Reply from Asralvoid.com regarding my comments from this post:
Member's comment:
So basically you making the higher being more like the lower being ignorant, selfish, and i know that higher beings can care less about those attribute...come on their higher being they want us to be more like them..so why would they push us away..especially sense we're there to learn..that doesn't sound right for a higher being to me..to be that way...if they were that way about it their wouldn't be as many of them as it is if they had that type of attitude about us moving up...i can see if it told him something like you need more practice..and sent you on your way where you can get the practice or mind set to move up...these are just MO..but i'm sure a lot of people think this way about higher being, being helpful and healing and inspirational. not like the way you described them....also in the higher realms there is not i'm better then you attitude everyone is equals...so there is no such thing as compatibility...all those characteristic are found on the lower realms.
Jettins' reply:
Oh wow hydro, you interpreted this all wrong indeed. Your thoughts have a one-dimensional angle to them.
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Member's comment:
basically you making the higher being more like the lower being ignorant, selfish
Jettins' reply:
No, no. We are in a state of becoming. How can you become a star baseball player if you do not go through the training and the growing pains of a star? If Mozart came and gave me a single piano class you think I would be a star pianist? NO, they understand this better than we do, they determine how they can best be of help and something this means making us learn from our faults. We are in a state of becoming, we cannot do this without going through a process.
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Member's comment:
come on their higher being they want us to be more like them
Jettins' reply:
They don't want us to be like them, they give us free will to decide whatever we want or do not want. This is why they don't interfere. You see, in the astral realms you cannot hide form what you are, which is why it is essential that we create it ourselves.
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Member's comment:
especially sense we're there to learn
Jettins' reply:
Yes, but we determine what we learn and do not learn. We also determine if we want to learn or not. Higher beings aren't like kings you would find on earth that dictate what we should do and believe. They aren't selfish or ignorant, they are the exact opposite, they understand that for you to become even close to being like them you need to go through the hurdles of self discovery. This is why they only give you hints if they understand you are on a similar path. You have to stop thinking about higher beings as kings, and think of them as enlightened.
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Member's comment:
i can see if it told him something like you need more practice
Jettins' reply:
That would be like talking to a plant. Saying to the plant "plant you need to grow". That plant doesn't need to know this to know this is what it does. The higher being would instead water the plant, yet the plant wouldn't even realize it was watered. The experience itself was a gift granted by the higher beings, this in itself is enough of a gift. Why? because the individual might be able eventually to return, when he or she is ready.
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Member's comment:
i'm sure a lot of people think this way about higher being, being helpful and healing and inspirational. not like the way you described them.
Jettins' reply:
Oh no. I am describing a being that has much more access to knowledge than us. They know who requires the inspiration, can you say Near Death Experiences and meeting Jesus? Astral travelers like ourselves that already have a grasp into things do not need these types of encounters. They do not carry us by the hand, they want us to auto-determinate. At the same time they are nearby watching if we truly can benefit from their assistance. They are often referred to as guides and facilitators. If someone is evolving themselves in a way to benefit from the visitation of a guide, they will encounter them.
I remind the reader my thoughts aren't meant to be authoritative.
Marcia Beloved 6 years ago
Jettins said:
The experience itself was a gift granted by the higher beings, this in itself is enough of a gift. Why? because the individual might be able eventually return, when he or she is ready.
Marcia Beloved's comment:
I totally agree. The grace energies of higher beings are real. Help is available if we position ourselves to receive it. And if we are observant and intuitive we will know when we are being helped. When grace is given, seems we should be humble and refrain from managing the experience.
Jettins 6 years ago
Nice way of saying it, I should adopt your style. I sound a little heavy when I say things, but it's not my intention.
