Nonphysical being Encounter - Astral Experiment

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Date: Posted 6 years before Oct 28, 2018

Jettins 6 years ago

Experience #157 from January 12, 2011 called, “nonphysical being encounter”. I woke up in the morning quickly from a regular dream, I thought it would be a good time to try and have an experience. I started counting from 1 to 60 quickly very fast and restarting at 60. I was on the 3rd pass and started to feel the numbers slowing down in my mind at 20. I also started to feel my entire body numb and falling into a trance. Approximately 40 seconds later I started to feel the vibrations, I was surprised I was able to enter trance so fast and easily because I moved prior to the counting. I could feel the strongest vibrations in my legs, and very light vibrations all around my body for about 20 seconds. I tried to control the vibrations by moving them around my body but I was unsuccessful. I wanted to make sure I didn't wake up while trying to exit my body, so I gently lifted my head, legs and arms then slowly rolled out to be in a sitting position in my bed with the feet on the ground.

Someone was waiting for me standing under the door frame of my room. I'm not sure know who she was, possibly another version of my sister, somewhat different but her same presence. She was interested in grabbing my attention quickly as If I would forget, she then took me by the lower arm and walked me through the living room to where my Microsoft xbox360 is located. I also have a second memory where she called me with hand gestures and asked me to follow her through the living room to where my xbox360 is located. I have both memories of the same event. I was unable to get distracted or focus my attention on anything else because the sequence was done very fast and diligently by her. I do remember that my houses seemed identical and I felt the presence of hooded beings watching from the edges of the living room without interfering.

When I was in front of the Xbox360 she pointed at it, the console had the green light in the middle signifying its ON. When I saw it, I remembered my previews experiments I had done in other Astral Projections in 2010, where I would attempt to turn on my Xbox360 from within the Astral (The new xbox360 has a 'light touch' button that turns ON the console if the moisture and conductivity of a finger touches it). My thoughts where that maybe I could affect the electronic device with an electrostatic discharge to turn it ON. In past Astral Projections I had attempted to turn on the Xbox360 in 3 different attempts without success: My hands would either go through the device, it was an older model that does not have 'light touch', or was only able to affect the TV. Nothing significant had occurred. As she pointed at it, I moved my hand with a very strong intention to affect the console, when I touched it, I felt a spark in my finger and the Xbox360 console turned OFF. I looked at her and then she made a gesture of what I believe was: "You see, you can do this". My reaction was "wow, you saw it too. When I wake I will be able to verify this and have validation". In the Astral Projection it was ON and I turned it OFF.

I walked back through the living room to the front door to exit the house. I went through the door easily with the little impulse from walking with little resistance. I was then outside the house standing in the cement walkway that leads to the driveway. I looked up and noticed power lines and thought it would not be a good place to try and fly. I remembered other experiences where I had not been able to fly more than a few feet, to later realize that power lines had been present. With these thoughts in my mind I went around to the left side to be in between houses and have clear sky. I flew up about 15-20 feet and said in the exact words:

"Show me my future wife, no, no, show me what I want to see, no, take me to the future, show me what I should see"

I now realized how stupid and amateurish of my part was to not have a clear set intention. I got carried away by the moment. I started to move, but I didn't feel like I was guiding it. I was moving like the ball of a compass trying to find its heading, sideways and around moving slowly towards something. I then realized something was guiding it indeed, it was the upper body of a little boy, as a lower body it had what can be described as almost invisible denser or energy fields that looked like a tails. I was being carried by this energy on the left side about 10 feet away from the torso. At this point I also noticed the ground level and I was somewhere else. As we started moving in one direction I could see different scenes coming to view all around me, as if flying through a movie sequence in 4th dimension space. The world itself was changing all around us! The scenes where not familiar to me, we flew around what appeared to be different cities, parks, and houses. I was surprised to see everything luxurious, totally unexpected of what I think my future would be, but I wasn't sure if that's what I was being showed so...

I looked again at the little torso of the little boy and thought, "This must be an angle because he seems to know me". Then I said "Show me what I need to see", we changed directions and landed in the ground. I got closer to him then I realized he had the rest of his body. Then I asked him:

"Are you an Angel", he responded: "Not in the form that you think"

"What do you mean", he responded: "I can change my form in different ways"

"Why are you a little boy" he responded: "We have to make less changes"

At this point I started to look around my surroundings and noticed babies taking care of babies, it was very interesting to see very young babies walking and crawling and going about their business as if with a purpose. Afterwards the world itself started to change and I awoke up inside a Jail cell...

There was another man that woke up simultaneously with me on the second bed of the jail cell, he was vomiting and I was slightly nauseated. He looked like he was in his 50s and was someone I did not recognize. I was surprised to see that I was not vomiting like he was because we had been through the same thing. At that point I remember what I had been showed but could make little sense of it. It was the presence of something or someone. I could not determine the sex, it was deformed or it had a mask, an alien, or a non-human, no hair, both sexes or asexual. It was a being looking at me from about 3 feet away and shorter than me. I can still see it when I close my eyes. This being stayed close and in view while scenes around me changed constantly like a Holodeck from Star Trek would be like.

astral scene

I think I saw someone’s birthday a Pakistani or Indian family and many other scenes for about 10 min. When I awoke in the jail cell I felt shocked, I believe this is why my memory of the incident is low. Maybe I didn't want to remember??

I looked again at the man inside the jail cell and noticed he had accidentally vomited in his little notebook. He picked up his notebook and started to write on it. I realized the man had been through the same experience with "the being" as an observer or participant, I am not sure. Moments later I woke up in my bed. I then got up and went to check the xbox360 and noticed it was OFF like I had left it the day before. I will have to try and turn it OFF when it’s ON. It’s possible that in the projection it was a future event or potential; because it was ON to begin with. I haven’t tried this again yet since this incident.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

Even though these experiments and verifications are very helpful and useful in practicing astral projection, this is a part of occult practice and is not part of the yoga kriya system.

The difference is that the kriya system has no concern with the feed back into the physical side, with demonstrations of affecting the physical side. In one of your posts, and they are all very useful to us and we appreciate them, there was something about Manly P. Hall.

My first yoga teacher was an American named Arthur Beverford who is now deceased. He learnt from Rishi Singh Gherwal who was a contemporary of Paramhansa Yogananda. Rishi was a genuine yogi and he was very critical of Manly P. Hall and for the very reason that Hall was into the occult for relational purposes to the material existence.

In the yoga system that is considered to be a distraction and is not part of the strict practice. Hall did much valuable work and also did much in terms of explaining and showing diagrams about the subtle body but still Rishi was critical of him because of the focus on using the astral to come back to the physical.

In my opinion, both the occult and yoga may stand their own grounds. One has one purpose and the other has a totally different objective.

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Jettins wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

This type of experience after leaving the body finally at its death, would cause a person to be re-routed back into a womb for rebirth into the earth’s history. This behavior is undesirable for those yogis who want to go to the higher worlds. If one behaves like this after leaving a body for good, one will again be attracted to earthly parents and will come out again as an embryo as somebody’s child.

This will happen without planning and even if one does not desire to take rebirth in that particular circumstance.

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

Even though these experiments and verifications are very helpful and useful in practicing astral projection, this is a part of occult practice and is not part of the yoga kriya system

Jettins Reply:

It was my perspective at the time. I lost the need to prove to myself that the experience where ‘real’. My issues with the power lines were from incomplete observations I had at the time.

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MiBeloved wrote:

This type of experience after leaving the body finally at its death, would cause a person to be re-routed back into a womb for rebirth into the earth’s history.

Jettins Reply:

Interesting, I do not want to come back to physical existence for sure. To me, as of now, no human life feels amusing enough. But I do feel like I could help others IN the astral after my death for a time. Maybe I just don’t understand things enough. A guide told me “You wouldn’t understand”, when I asked for information. But then later satisfies me by saying "You won’t need to worry about losing your memory where you're going" I will have time to sort it out. I am glad I found this forum.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

It is all about migration to higher realms but to do so you need a connection, somebody from the other place who comes over to this place, makes contact with you and then you get a link to the outskirts of this zone, otherwise it is circular in that you take a body, go to the nearby astral places, adjacent parallel dimensions and then the system of psychic nature routes you back into this place to play your part in its history.

Everything here is under lock-down like at San Quentin. So if you are born on the penal island and that is all you know, it is hardly likely that you will make contact with anything else even in your dreams.

So some outside contact is required.

Consider Buddha, Krishna, Patanjali and such people as aliens who entered this place and tried to shock treat a few persons to get them to come out of here.

Buddha saw the situation after he woke up here and found himself in the penal colony called Mother Earth, and then he said, “I am getting out of this hole. This is crazy. This is a circular highway leading in and out repeatedly. Jump this!”

If every one of us is an ordinary prisoner, then getting out is toast and it is not going to happen because we are conditioned in a limited way with limited perception, and information. So we need to have some alien assistance. Then we can break out.

It starts with realizing that some persons here are not just aliens but divine beings who are different and who will and can escape while we cannot do so without special assistance.

If we follow the New Age rap about all of us being divine beings, then nothing is going to happen except in our imaginations and that is okay for most of the guys in the lock down but it won’t break the cycle of birth and death repeatedly.

Buddha was a special divine being. You have to accept that and then progress can be made, because then you will have the right attitude when you approach him or his assistance energy which he has left behind for you. The same applies to Krishna.

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

Jettins Reply:

It’s possible that this has already been happening. Some experiences have been clearly guided maybe for this purpose. I record my experiences via microphone to MP3 in the mornings. I think it's enhancing my recall. I want my thoughts and the meaning of things to quickly flow out so that I can capture the insights gained from the experience. Just a few here that I can remember otherwise I would have to go back to my logs.

In #375 there was a time when a person who identified himself as Nelson showed me to open up a wormhole and travel to another dimension, #530 and the burning into charcoal scenario, #570 a guide pointing towards the sky. At the same time there have been other experiences that appeared to me the exact opposite. I think that the experiences themselves (the visual forms or sceneries and events that occur) are a metaphor of a greater underlying foundation that creates them. Some of it has to do with unintentional side effects sort of speak. I will get into more detail in another post. It's a big mix of things.

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MiBeloved wrote:

Everything here is under lock-down like at San Quentin. So if you are born on the penal island and that is all you know

Jettins Reply:

Robert A. Monroe also came to this conclusion. He believed that we become addicted to physical existence. In #157 I had the experience of waking up inside a jail cell maybe to represent the physical limitations. In #544 after my physical representation was blown into ashes and felt myself as a point of consciousness I instinctively said," nooooo, I want to know how it ends" then from within the ashes a new body was formed. I found myself in the body of an armored warrior with his shield and spear, in what appeared be ancient times, in #27 inside a medieval prison. Bummer!

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MiBeloved wrote:

Jettins Reply:

In one of my earlier experiences I would say before my #10 (I didn't have the recordings well labeled at the time) as I was struggling to get oriented to leave my body, I saw a form on the roof. It could best be described as a black Buddha sitting in lotus pose and he said, “You will be able to do this”. To me a Buddha represents wisdom, what an appropriate Form to give me such a message.

I found an image that appears to depict what I saw.

Buddha

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