Near death experience
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Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 30, 2018
Christopher 6 years ago
I have this friend, who is also a yoga instructor hailing from the Shivananda-Vishnudevananda yoga lineage.
She asked me a puzzling question. She had informed me of this near death experience of a person, who she claims was clinically dead for hours, but who had came back to life, after having experienced himself out of their body and feeling the presence of being's who were made out of light, and also experiencing this intense feeling of well being, but for some reason or other he or she decided to return back to their body, and afterword's leading a full life of praising God etc, etc, etc.
She was trying to give me the impression that this experience was real or real religion, beyond words and all of that stuff.
I tried to tell her it was an out of the body experience, and that they were not certainly the Supreme Being, who is only attainable through genuine yoga practice, so they must have been elevated astral beings.
I really didn't understand why she even brought the subject. I said since their sense were imperfect before they were out of their body, how is it that all of a sudden they have perfect perception or the ability to discern whatever they are perceiving, for all we know it could have been some kind of devil posing as a being of light.
I told her to post it on the sight, she say she was uncomfortable with that.
She claims that this person was clinically dead for hours, but had decided to return to this side.
To her this is real evidence of God or whatever.
If this person found God, just by dying and upon death became more cognizant than they were alive, to the extent that they run into what they thought to be God, then what is the point of your yoga practice or philosophy, if one simply dies and can realize God, what need is there for you to practice yoga, or have any faith in the philosophy of Yoga.
Can you help me with this?
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Christopher wrote:
I tried to tell her it was an out of the body experience, and that they were not certainly the Supreme Being, who is only attainable through genuine yoga practice, so they must have been elevated astral beings.
MiBeloved’s Response:
First of all you were incorrect because you do not know for sure that this person was not seeing or was not in contact with the Supreme Being. It is one thing to define a limit to the powers of a limited being but it is totally off to limit the powers of the Supreme Being.
In the Mahabharata, as evil a villain as Duryodhana saw the Universal Form of Krishna who claimed himself as the Supreme Being. So this means that the Supreme Being can approach anyone, even though most others cannot approach the Supreme Being unless he allows such an approach.
Kansa was an evil ruler and he saw the Supreme Being Krishna as well as the demigoddess Durga both with physical eyes and with subtle vision. So this means that it is not true that an ordinary person cannot see the Supreme Being. Herod, an evil king saw Jesus Christ and spoke to Christ face to face, at least to Chris’s material body. Others who were regular Jews doing no yoga and eating lamb and goats, also saw Jesus’ subtle body after his supposed death on the cross.
You cannot really judge if a person can see God because it is possible that the most unfit person can see God just by God’s grace. It does happen. It is not normal. It is not regular. It is not going to happen to every ordinary person but it can happen. Even if there is one in a billion chances of something happening, it is still possible even though it is not probable, and thus we have to have an open mind for this.
If God singles out somebody and gives that person sufficient dispensation of divine energy, then it is possible that such a person could be recalled into the spiritual existence. We should never doubt this.
All the same we should be realistic and not think that I or you will be that person. And so the rest of us should work diligently to be worthy of such dispensation, always feeling that we are unfit and that God will neglect us because of our bad behavior.
The Christians sometimes quote a statement which we should take a hard look at and it is this:
All people have made terrible errors and have serious flaws and therefore all the human beings fall short of the divine nature.
Accepting this, we should be humble.
Usually people who have near-death-experiences (NDE) in which they see a divine being or a divine light and in which they experience themselves in a heavenly bliss body or condition, may again experience those states when the final death of the material body comes, but rarely do these individuals remain in such a state. What usually happens is that this last for a very short time and then they find themselves in the regular astral world which we are usually in during our dreams.
Yes, they do rise to a high plane of existence but then it does not last and they are left off on a low astral level and then they again come out after a time as a baby of a woman on this side of existence. This is discussed in the book, Astral Projection, which we released last week.
Jesus Christ is God for all practical purposes, so if he wants to elevate somebody to heavenly status and if he can exert the power for that, then who is there to stop him. So we should always keep these things in mind and always be happy if some other human gets to see him or his angels and gets to experience heavenly bliss even for a split second.
Do not ever deride Christ or try to estimate or underestimate his ability to rescue someone causelessly or for no reason at all. He can do it. Have faith my friend! Be happy about that person’s divine experience.
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unlimitedsun 6 years ago
Christopher, thank you so much for asking such an interesting question in the most appropriate place. It allowed me to understand a very important aspect of existence.
Jettins 6 years ago
Interesting read.
