My son - My father
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Feb 16, 2017
MiBeloved 6 years ago
Spiritual relationships
The social relationships which develop for this body are not necessarily spiritual relationships. In fact many of these social roles are inconsistent with the spiritual roles which would be if two persons, for instance, were instantly transferred into a spiritual environment.
What is a spiritual environment? That is where you live in an environment and which is indestructible and which is free from deterioration.
Last night in the astral world, I was in a dimension where I met an old subtle form of a relative from this life who is now deceased but who has taken a new body and is living in the United States. The person’s astral form even though it is using a young adult body, assumed a look like the person’s old age body from the immediate past life.
Even though that person has a new body which looks different from the old one left behind, still the subtle form of the person assumed a look like the old body which died at about 65 years of age. This person, who was my social senior in her past life, began to make demands on the basis of our relationship in the past life.
Somehow at the time, we both found ourselves in a hellish astral place, where there were men scattered about on the ground with crushed limbs. Sometimes even though one has not done enough criminal or anti-social activities to spend some time in a hellish place, one may have done enough to warrant a visit to such places to see the ghastly conditions of those who reside there. It is like having to visit a maximum security prison or a war hospital on this planet.
In any case, we did not stay in that place for long and soon after that old relative began to badger me about continuing our social relationship which was from her past life. I began to explain that the previous social role was temporary and was not my priority and that I assumed this body to fulfill other purposes.
The gross body influences the subtle body to feel that all beneficial relationships formed should continue forever and again, but that is not possible. A yogin has to learn how to facilitate the social relationships formed in each life and also fulfill his or her mission for spiritual purposes.
If we adhere only to social relationships which depend on having a certain body in a certain place and time, then we will restrict ourselves to a struggle against time in the effort to keep those relationships over a span of many lives. And of course time will not honor our request and it will result in disappointment and anguish.
This was one of the principles which Gautama Buddha explained to his attached relatives.
Material nature is flexible and with it, I might have a father-to-son relationship with an entity in one life and then a son-to-grandfather relationship with the same entity in another life. So which is which?
From the spiritual angle, am I the person’s father or son?
One way to look at this is to consider all relationships as being flexible and to feel that there is a potential for any type of relationship with anyone else. The relationship energy can take any form, one might surmise.
However even though that assumption may work in the material social world, it won’t do in the spiritual social situations.
