My brother - Ever increasing awareness

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Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 22, 2018

Jettins 6 years ago

Experience #672 from July 21, 2012. I had an interesting out of body experience today with my brother. As I was getting up and out of my body my brother saw me and it appeared that he left his body as well. He joined me and we did some activities. He later told me that another time he had become lucid and he had helped someone else a friend of his become lucid. Then two other friends that where there that did not become lucid, buy told me that in the past they had become lucid by another friend that had been lucid and letting them know.

This dream had two parts, the first part is when I enter the trance condition, exit my body and then saying to my brother we where in the astral. The second part I felt I woke up, but I was still in the dream. I lost lucidity and had the discussion above with the people in the dream.

I am wondering if at a conscious level my brother will have access to these memories while he is in the dream state, as a type of dream memory, even though he might never realize this during the physical awake state. It's clear the behavior of my brother has changed dramatically since I first encountered him and worked with him in the Astral. Before when I was very lucid, he always looked drunk, about to pass out, but now he never does. Wishful thinking in my part, but I would like to listen your comments on this. Which is why I have shortened this post.

Have a great day!

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

MiBeloved's Response:

He can have recall of it on the astral level, provided his subtle body was wired with memory circuits and an observational perspective during the experience. If either of these are missing there will be no memory.

Usually people are not equipped with memory circuits or observational perspective in these states.

An individual may carry an intuition about what happened however. This is like something which can be remembered but with hazy details and very indistinct.

Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

Jettins' reply:

This is what I suspected. Unfortunately he doesn't have dream memory worth a damn and probably never will. I think he will come to realize some of the things I've explained to him in the Astral side of things at some point. I must have between 20 and 30 encounters with him, he has made significant improvements and it seems that he understands things much better now. I hope it carries over when he is gone from the physical. His death appears will be quick from what I've seen in the astral.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

You guy looks like you are eating well.

You sure don't look like you are living in the Sahara.

Thing is that sometimes one discovers that one cannot give spiritual vision to persons in the family where one took a certain body.

Kundalini is the psychic mechanism which creates the kinship bond.

Keep an eye on it, because as soon as one family body is finished, it is ready to create another bond.

Alfredo 6 years ago

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Jettins 6 years ago

MiBeloved wrote:

Kundalini is the psychic mechanism which creates the kinship bond.

Keep an eye on it, because as soon as one family body is finished, it is ready to create another bond.

Jettins' reply:

Ok but how does one person keep an eye on this? I am not going to have a family of my own because it's not compatible with my philosophy. My brain is not wired in a way to deal and sustain others people's physical needs while in this dimension. This is not a desire or wish, it's just how it is. So if it's a bond that is suppose to end, it's likely it ends with me. He is the one into collecting shit and going to places, I am the total opposite even though it might appear we are the same in this picture.

The people that I wanted to share the picture have seen it, it has now been removed.

Alfredo 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

[He is the one into collecting shit and going to places, I am the total opposite event tho it might appear we are the same in this picture.]

Alfredo's reply:

Sounds like my brother and I.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

I am not going to have a family of my own because it's not compatible with my philosophy.

MiBeloved's Response:

Really, so you feel that you took this body and there is no cost for it. It is a free thing?

Jettins 6 years ago

I haven't thought about it that way. To me it feels there are more pressing matters, which is what I am preparing for and it's not in this dimension. I am not trying to skip "payment" I think I will do this a different way, maybe helping those in these pursues.

I've jumped so many times to the Astral Realms that physical reality has lost its shine, things are rather dull here. I know what's out there and I live it nearly every single day. Most people in the streets choice to live a life with anesthesia, it also seems to me that only few people have explored the psyche, even less know the implications of the existence of the psyche. Why are people so fixated into so much stupid useless garbage these days and all days? Why have most people lost the ability to sort out the bullshit? When was the last time you heard someone say one true and original thought?

I was at Disney today and what I saw where clones.

MiBeloved 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

Why have most people lost the ability to sort out the bullshit?

MiBeloved's Response:

Such a question carries with it a dangerous presumption that people had the ability in the first place. Are you sure about that?

Alfredo 6 years ago

Jettins wrote:

I've jumped so many times to the Astral Realms that physical reality has lost its shine, things are rather dull here. I know what's out there and I live it nearly every single day.

Alfredo's reply:

A question arises: Can YOU obtain better results in the Astral Realms that you may be able to obtain here, Yogically-speaking? If yes, the rejection is correct, if not, the rejection may be a palliative, an illusion.

Jettins 6 years ago

This physical dimension is very good for preparation, once I am done preparing I will ready for full existence in the Realms.

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