Morality and Women in the Celestial World
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 6 years before Nov 26, 2018
MiBeloved 6 years ago
From a post I made on LinkedIn:
There is a nice story in the beginning of the Mahabharata about how the minor devas and devis (gods and goddesses of the Hindu Pantheon) were once called to a meeting by Brahma, a primal deity.
So to meet this divine person, they had to travel through dimensions to get to his place which was in the highest dimension in this local universe. It so happened that a king named Mahabhisha was also invited. He was not a deva but his governing behavior was so ideal, that he too was invited. According to the Vedic information, sometimes a king from the earth is promoted to the status of a deva supernatural ruler, king, in the astral realms.
Mahabhisha’s subtle body was pulled into the higher astral zones easily because of his exemplary governing behavior and when he arrived into the dimension of the Brahma deity, he touched down gently on the paved astral surface which led into the magic assembly hall.
But as it is with fate, you never know who you are going to meet along the way. As he entered, someone else, a divine woman, also arrived there. The goddess wasn’t dressed in her Sunday best. Her garments were not opaque and they were not down to her knees. In fact her clothing was sheer and transparent and a celestial breeze was excitedly rushing and blowing up whatever little she managed to wear.
The others, the lesser deities being permanent residences of the celestial world, looked off in the distance but Mahabhisha who was a newbie, stared as his eyes were riveted on the goddesses near nude body.
So it does happen that even in the celestial world, there is this what you called, promiscuity.
Sometimes I think it is so funny when self righteous people talk about going to heaven. Are they joking? Do they think that in heaven the women are dressing in a decent way with opaque clothing and burkas?
Let them think again!
There is a reason why yogis are so afraid of going to heaven.
It may be that getting to heaven will take all the morality any human being can muster but once you get there, then it might be a different story.
Jettins 6 years ago
Concept of Moral Authority
To try to understand this we need to take a look at the concept of moral authority in the astral realms. Moral authority is what actually determines what you REALLY are in the astral. This morality appears to be of the heart, or your entire make-up, and not only of the present thoughts. Very advance beings can operate simultaneously in more than one visual reality, they are multifaceted. How they look in one dimension does not determine their governing morality.
If you think about it nudity in itself is not immoral, it’s only until someone looks at it that morality comes into question. So it has to do with the perception of an individual. High morality doesn’t mean that certain thoughts cannot ever exist; it means that the state of being of the individual is governed by a higher moral authority. This is why getting to the higher astral dimensions could be difficult, but once you get there it’s another story. Why? Because and individual is already compatible. It’s much more than thoughts that create the morality system in the Astral Realms. It is the psyche, the overall multi-dimensional psychological make-up the fundamental mechanism that determines compatibility and behavior in the Astral Realms it appears to me.
Multi-dimensional psyche? Yes, some aspects of our past make-up are not accessible to us while in the physical body. But it can begin to be understood when one ventures in the astral states of being frequently. This can also be referred to as the complexities and intricacies of our past existences that have another small or large part in determining our state of being which is usually unknown in origin.
Going back to moral authority, a particular individual’s morality might be governed by higher standards, or a higher moral authority. This is why Mahablisha might have been invited in the first place and not because of his drawback, not because of his admiration to the nude female form. These very advance beings can sense the individual’s governing moral authority and determine if lower beings will reach the proper conclusions set forth by their path all in advance.
Moral Authority is not meant to imply that it is always good morality, it’s only meant to imply which is the deterministic overall morality of the being, creating an individual state of being. This moral authority determines which like beings coexist in a community, creating the groupings, the many different astral dimensions in the realms.
The concept of moral authority creates the hierarchy system in the astral realms it appears to me. The different individual moral authorities determining the type of experiences they will have after death. Some individuals having a moral authority that would be associated with lower standards, with qualities such as greed, hate and envy among many others would fall into the lower realms.
Why lower? Who said that the lower realms where for bad behavior? Nobody did, it is a state. The attributes such as greed, hate and envy create a constricted being, unable to perceive things outside of themselves. It creates a psychically dead individual that is unable to perceive or exist in higher astral realms, or in the higher dimensions of being. This is how morality and dimensional existence comes together.
I remind the reader that my thoughts are not meant to be authoritative. These are only my thoughts after hundredths of personal jumps in the Astral Dimensions. Take it as you wish. Information found in books does not create my ideas, it only helps me create better language in which to express my experiences.
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State of being can also be thought as our "astral substance", or equivalent to our "subtle body" which is determined by our psyche and moral authority being the deterministic process of the psyche.
Ye but from the book i read it’s not the way they mean it...cause in the book we suppose to create our astral body out of this substance and transfer our awareness to it....heres the book: PRACTICAL GUIDE TO ASTRAL PROJECTION: THE O.B.E by denning and phillips...the methods and techniques are pretty hardcore..it’s like an everyday ritual or something...i couldn't keep up with it...i'll post a passage from it in the passage post.
That sounds to me like another metaphor, something one would expect to do while in physical existence. We learn that we need to transfer things because we need signals to get things from one point to another. In the other sides things don't really function this way, research "quantum entanglement" to understand a bit more on the concept on how the realms actually operate. In the other side things are mental, created by our psyche. If the psyche needs a ritual to create the awareness so that we can extend outside of ourselves then so be it. But in reality there is a greater fundamental concept here.
Our psyche, or our psychological make-up is everything we experience, everything that is possible, everything that actually happens and exists. In other words the thought process is only a tool we use to make things work. This implies that different thought process or metal metaphors (such as transferring to substances or whatever) can lead to the same outcome. Be skeptic about those concepts that appear to be overly physical in understanding, because they are physically oriented and this is not the most powerful or advance form of existing by any means.
Experiences in the astral appear to be readiness based. People create what they need to experience to trigger further understanding of what they are. This concept creates the perception of time in the astral realms that then yield experiences. In other words the psyche mimics its existence by creating the sense of time as learned while in a human body. As we go higher into the realms, reality as experienced must change. True understanding exist in the higher realms as the sense of time converges within itself, where more things become possible and the greater sense of existence is actually understood.
I don’t have all the information about the higher realms, but I think it’s something like that. I don’t want to sound like a know it all because I don't, I am just guessing and using my intuition half the time. Anyone please feel free to educate me or give your thoughts regarding any of my posts. I will be less rambunctious and make it more about the information from now on. I won’t take it personal. So please share!
