Monks discuss Yoga
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 5 years before Mar 09, 2017
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Last night in the astral world I was with some members of the Hare Krishna Movement. Some of these individuals were disgraced in the society and lost their big position as leading monks.
I was with a set of persons who were either sannyasi monks or teachers of the school system of the society. I was a teacher in the system for the most part of the time, I was in ashram regiment.
Everyone of the persons whom I was with had homosexual inclinations and most of them were practicing homosexuals at the time, except that it was proven later that they were having relationships with some of the boys in the boarding school system which was set up by the founder of the society.
The Hare Krishna Society is a good case study about human nature, how people take a religious leader and then cannot find fault with the leader or with themselves and find fault with everything else.
There are two parts to this. People either find fault with the leader and cannot find any advantage in finding fault with themselves or they do not find any fault with the leader because if they do, it would imply that their decision to follow that person was flawed. In either case it is an effort to protect the self of the follower.
Finding fault with a leader does not in any way take care of the fault of the follower, so that is not a real solution. In this life one has to make do, which means one has to use what is available, even if what is available is not perfect. Actually one has to see that what is here is what is here and one cannot do anything else but to either put things to use or leave them aside.
In South American, there is a Creole saying that if you can’t find your Mammy, then you should suck on your Granny. Usually the infant cries because the look of the shriveled breast of the grandmother is a hellish sight. The breast is not soft and fluffy, and the liquid from it is more whey than milk. The nipple is hard and wiry.
So the infant is crying, “No! This is not what I want. No! This is a rip off. No! I want my Mammy!”
As I was talking with those former Hare Krishna leaders, the senior said this, “I do not know why he did not have a system for yoga exercises in the morning. It would have taken about half hour and many of our sexual problems would have been non-existent.”
It was a stupid question because we all knew why. The reason being that in that lineage of teachers, over time, the system of yoga which is described in the Bhagavad Gita in chapter 6 became outlawed. The founder of the society was simply doing what he was told to do by his predecessor, so in that sense he was blameless in the matter.
In India, in the spiritual lineages which are called sampradayas, or spiritual societies which advocate a certain doctrine and practice, one has to do whatever one is told to do by the predecessor, at least if one wants to hang a shingle with the name of the lineage on it. It is similar to the commercial franchise system in the developed countries, where you can buy into a franchise but you must represent the product in a stipulated way.
Then another one of those monks said this. “Urdhvareta, that is the secret and it was attained only through yoga austerities. Otherwise all the stuff flows down. And then we are bound to have sexual problems either with the same or the opposite sex.”
He was speaking about the idea in the Indian books about semen flowing upwards into the brain, rather than flowing downward through the genitals. Urdhva is a Sanskrit word meaning upward flow and reta is Sanskrit for semen.
Interestingly these persons were the very same people who gave me strict warnings about not doing yoga when I first entered the Hare Krishna ashram in West Virginia. They knew that I was a practicing yogi, before I got there, so they were sure to inform me about the rules of the lineage and they were afraid that perhaps I would influence others to do yoga.
During the morning session of exercises, these persons came and were checking to see how the energy flow is altered in the subtle body as a result of pranayama breath infusion techniques. One of them said that it was such a simple logical practice, that anyone would do it.
I did not say a word to him, because there is tons of social resistance in spiritual groups and in the normal society which goes against yoga practice, especially against anything that interferes with the genital usage of semen.
The practice might seem simple enough but the establishment of it in one’s life only occurs if one can get over that resistance. Yoga practice with the upwards flow of semen even if done proficiently does not free a male from family obligations nor from obligation to participate in the reproduction of baby forms.
