Modern Meditation Experience: Swayam Atma Jyothi (Core-self in its own radiance)

July 18, 2025 (Friday)

This is the conversation between Ani & Modern Yogi

Modern Yogi's Method (Modern Yogic Institution's method):

These are the steps:

Preparation:

1. Early in the morning, around 6:00 - 6:15 am, sit for meditation
2. Start with outside sounds like birds' chirpings, wind blowing, and slowly internalise to Naad sound

Pratyahara-sensual withdrawal:

1. Pull the energy from the eyes to the center of the head and external hearing to internal hearing
2. Now, deliberately focus on Naad in the right or left ear

Dharana- deliberate focus:

1. Eventually, after some focus on Naad, Naad focus becomes more continuous.

Dhyana - effortless focus:

1. Now, psychically feel the awareness of the core-self that is focusing the naad.

Detaching from Mental thoughts, Imagery & idea fluctuations (Neti-Neti/ Iti-Iti):

1. If any thought package or bundle affects the buddhi or intellect region, do neti-neti (Negation) & iti-iti (Affirmation)
2. Neti- Neti - I am not the body. I am not the mind, I am not this, I am not that (Negation)
3. Now, do iti-iti - I am atma, I am the eternal light, I am the bliss, I am the consciousness, I am Brahman (Affirmation)
4. This will reduce and detach from the thought package's grip onthe psyche and reaffirm the Atma as the eternal witness

Samadhi state (Blank state & Swayam Atma Jyothi):

1. Now, stay in the awareness of the atma or the radiance of atma (Swayam Atma Jyothi - Core-self in its own radiance)
2. The psyche enters a state of blankness with no thoughts.
3. Atma feels the bliss of its own radiance and awareness
4. Subject (Atma) is Subjective to its own radiance without any psychic adjuncts.
5. This samadhi state for Modern Yogi stays at least 90-100 minutes almost everyday consistently after 25 years of practice with the Modern Yogic Institution method learned from Guyana without any asanas (postures) or pranayama (breath infusion).

This is a genuine method for higher samyama. The other spiritual aspirants should learn and try to adopt this method and benefit if they can.

The interesting aspect, I found he is able to reach this state without hatha yoga and pranayama. The question lies in how sustainable this method is with all the ups and downs in this life. Modern Yogi swears it has worked all through this life, even in difficult times.

Hyper Inflated Claims (Distortion by Imaginary orb inside Buddhi Organ):

From my conversation, I found that other claims were hyper-inflated. Hyper-inflated claims are common in day-to-day life due to imaginary orb functions in the buddhi organ. Imaginary orb will always magnify the experience by 2x or 200x, with lifetimes, the imaginary orb slows down, and one can see reality as reality

Here are the inflated claims from the practitioner (Modern Yogi):

1. Using Neti--Neti (Negation- I am not body, mind) & Iti-Iti (I am atma, brahman), changed the Modern Yogi's psyche and rewired the sexual and hormonal design on the subtle body where Atma and buddhi has a good grip.
2. In 3-4 astral sexual encounters when women chased him for sex or to have child, Modern Yogi's subtle body was totally detached from the sexual pleasure energy and let the buddhi and kundalini do the intercourse act without absorbing any pleasure from the woman.

My opinion:

This is quite an achievement that the subtle body is even doing such detachment act in astral worlds where all earthly rules are broken, where irrational, impulsive acts dominate. Even if it is 3 or 4 astral events, it is still a considerable feat because when astral sex energy is transferred between 2 subtle bodies mixed with ancestral energy, the atma goes super crazy and swims naked in the pleasure energy with any inhibitions.

More evidence is needed on this matter before coming to a conclusion that astral celibacy or detachment has been mastered astrally to a good level. There could be another 300-400 instances where the subtle body is having sex or orgy with dozens of men or women astrally controlled solely by Kundalini, and the Atma absolutely has no memory of the act.

Kundalini has near-supreme Modern Yogic power to stop the access of memory to shameful astral events or events during sleep. Kundalini has given me memory access to only 2-3 incidents where he stopped the pleasure energy transferring to core-self, there would be another 100 instances where there was deep satisfactory sex with the same woman, and the atma absorbed secret satisfaction from it.

If one is dead sure of no such incident, he should narrate the experience of Kundalini drags the subtle body out of the physical body during sleep. Is the atma even conscious of which portal the kundalini leaves and in which portal the subtle body comes back into the physical body? If such an astral state is not mastered, other secret sex instances without the atma's consent or knowledge cannot be dismissed.

Until sleep energy is mastered or observed carefully i.e., awake in core-self awareness even during sleep or slumber, it is too early to state subtle body activities were all controlled by atma, pure and sacred. The redesign of psyche can be challenged in different astral environments.

Here is another inflated claim from the practitioner (Modern Yogi) on Equanimity/ Sthitha Pragya:

1. Achieved full or partial Sthitha-Pragya (as defined by Krishna in Gita)
2. Sthitia Pragya is another legendary state of achievement for Karma Yogis & Maha Yogis like King Janaka, etc
3. It is defined as one whose intellect is firmly established in the Truth of Nature's transitory nature and balanced in dualities of pleasure & Pain, hot & cold, rich & poor, etc

My opinion:

When I challenged Modern Yogi if he can maintain equanimity even in life-threatening scenarios where he might die in a few days or lose wealth or be insulted in front of his followers, how would he react?

The initial responses were

1. "Haha, a doctor in Miami declared I would have some terminal problems, I laughed there and took his message lightly, even made some jokes on the illness."
2. "There are so many legal disputes or bad customers who want a return for the items they break, I still maintain the equanimity."
3. "In 30 years, I hardly had any sexual buildup or arousal, my psyche does not react like that, Equanimity is established".
4. "Even in all the office dealings or Krishna's earthly responsibilities, I am established in good equanimity."

I could not broach this topic any further with Modern Yogi as he was overconfident and extrapolating his momentary equanimity to a wider range of dualities in day-to-day life, which will take lifetimes to master.

I know for the fact that Modern Yogi was heavily distressed when I placed the Upanishads below the Bhagvad Gita. He was so furious that he astrally sent a barrage of psychic resentment energy targeting me and also gathered a huge array of Indian Pandits & Adviatic scholars to berate me astrally in Yogi Madhvacharya's house.

The famous person who came there was BKS Iyengar, who told Madhva that he sides with Modern Yogi on the topic of Upanishads that Ani should not have insulted Upanishads so badly in favor of Bhagavat Gita and that they have benefited a lot from Upanishads. Interestingly, nobody came to the defence of Krishna's Gita. I remained silent due to the huge number of protestors in front of me; the number of protestors was intimidating. I claim no "Stitha Pragya".

So, I was forced to take Ramana Maharishi's example for equanimity to bring some sense of reference to the discussion on Stitha pragya:

1. Can you maintain the equanimity of Ramana Maharishi when diagnosed with a certain form of terminal skin cancer or tumor?
2. The followers forced Ramana to have surgery in 1940s; he went with the crowd's wish. He had open surgery in front of the public without any whole-body anesthesia to remove the tumor with just mild local anesthesia in his ashram?
3. Doctors asked if he felt the pain during surgery, Ramana said, "No, I was in Atma's bliss". If full anesthesia was given, he declared he may not come back to the body again, he would forever be relocated to Brahman or other higher states.
4. Once, a thief went to his hut ashram in the 1920s, hearing a rumor that Ramana was stashing gold in his hut. The thief entered the small hut and searched for gold, finding no gold, he was frustrated and furious. He ordered all the inmates in the hut to parade outside the hut one by one. as each one stepped out, he gave 2 strong whackings in the buttocks with a huge iron rod, asking for the gold or other valuables.
5. Ramana received 2 whackings, he maintained his equanimity, no complaints. The next day in morning, the local rich guys came and offered to give a police complaint to the local Police commissioner, who is alsoa devotee or friend to the ashram. Ramana said, "The thief did his dharma (duty) which is stealing, and it is my dharma (duty) not to interfere with his dharma, no need for police complaints, ignore it". The same incident happened again and his response was the same.
6. When ants/ termites were building anthills in his teenage phsyical body, Ramana remained stitha pragya. When scorpions claws are stuck in his tights and chest while injecting venom in the Virupaksha cave, Ramana did not even care to remove them. He would smile and pat these scorpions, insects, and snakes. He let Nature run her show of dualities, pain & pleasure.
7. For days, Ramana would not even eat or go begging as he was stuck in Brahman effulgence absorption states, some siddha would have to come find him lying in the streets and open his mouth and put food into his mouth, and walk away to maintain a bare minimum life in his body.

After narrating such incidents of Stitha Pragya with a live example, Modern Yogi giggled and came to conculsion that his equanimity is no match to Ramana's and there is long road to travel infront of him.

My own filthy state:

Krishna's expectation of Stitha Pragya and other yogic achievements is a super long shot. In my case, it is going to take not just several lifetimes but at least 2 eons/ yugas to get these. This is after consulting with several liberated souls in astral worlds. They said, "Do not lose heart, you did many lives of tapas, and many more lives are on the way".

When I countered them, if I will I get liberation in this yuga/ eon, they giggled "Usually it takes yugas to achieve liberation even with the right technique, keep going, don't get distracted, lets see". The answer is if I get it done by the end of this yuga, it will be a stunning record because the vibrations are going to get worse century after century. So, the coming yuga will be more conducive for my liberation, provided I finish several pre-requisites for entry into the next Satya yuga (Eon of Truth). Criminal or unqualified or impure entities will not get entry to Satya Yuga, they will be dormant and sprout in Dwapar or Kali Yuga in another dimension that suits their evil pcychic inclinations. There are exceptions to this general rule of thumb.