Learning Kundalini Yoga without a teacher
Meditationtime Forum Post
Date: Posted 5 years before May 05, 2017
MiBeloved 5 years ago
Email correspondence:
I have been trying to do the breathing technique that you had on a video clip a while ago and I found it impossible to continue and I was wondering if you have a video of yourself or somebody else I can watch and learn from! Can I learn this technique by simply watching and trying out what you do on one of your videos?!
MiBeloved's Response:
It cannot be learnt in total simply by watching a video. It concerns what is happening in the subtle body not the physical one. From the physical postures, you cannot see what is taking place in the subtle body. It has little to do with the physical body, that is what kriya yoga is about. It is not a physical process essentially but it uses the physical body because that body is in a position to influence the subtle body.
You can learn it from books or from videos if you subsidize that by getting instructions from a physical teacher or an astral teacher. But there must be a teacher. Look at my situation, I have been doing this practice in this body since at least 1969. I learnt from a few physical teachers but most of the instruction was in the astral world from teachers who I never met physically. If someone who is as proficient as I am requires a teacher even now, then it follows that others who are less proficient would require such help.
If you do not have psychic perception then you need a physical teacher. If your psychic perception is good then you do not require one.
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People who are just aware of the physical body only cannot understand this process and it is not designed to be learned or used by them.
Kundalini yoga is a real process if you are working on the subtle body and if you are correctly infusing it, otherwise it is imaginative gratification.
The physical body is being used in the process but that is like when we use a weapon. Suppose as in war, one soldier desires to kill another from the enemy forces, then if he uses a gun he does not throw the gun. It is the powder charge and the metal which the power charge will propel that is useful. If you throw your gun at the enemy, you will be killed by him. You have to throw the subtle body not the physical one.
To learn this then requires some personal association. I learnt this from an individual person not from the void, not from the oneness. I take lessons on this even today from people on the astral planes. Suppose you proved that these were just dream illusions. Okay, but even then it was a person in that dream illusion. It was not just some energy in the dream.
So for you to learn it you also have to be taught it personally by someone who mastered it. It is fine if the master is part of a dream provided when you try what he told you, you got the desired effect from it.
This is a person process so it has those limitations when trying to master it.
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Email correspondence:
I usually take several deep breaths before meditation which gives my head a spin and allows me to get into a no thought mode and this is where I get to the Starfields almost instantly.
MiBeloved's Response:
Head spinning is prohibited in kundalini yoga. If it occurs then it means that the student has not learnt the locks, is not an expert at the mind lock and cannot channel kundalini in a restricted way. Hence usually such a student is either trained again or he is sent away.
There are two paths in life and there is really no in-between. These are:
pravritti marga
nirvritti marga
This practice is for those who dare to tread the path of nirvritti marga. It is not an easy path, because it means that someone who is under the full control of nature has made a decision to fight nature, a force which was his benefactor and slave-master from time immemorial.
Pravritti means someone who is interested in the opportunities for survival offered by nature. So long as that interest is there one cannot be successful in the kundalini practice. This is because kundalini is a most faithful servant of nature. It won’t give up that allegiance. It will fight the individual spirit in defense of nature.
If kundalini is not controlled, then the whole process is a waste of time.
Perception of the starfield is good. But you may go further if you like. If you are satisfied with that then why seek something else? Why disturb your peace?
Patanjali made it clear that the no-thought zone is essential. Unfortunately the matter does not end there. You can spend the next one millions years in that zone and not advance any further, not go to a spiritual dimension. That has happened.
There is process called jada samadhi, it means that one can go into a samadhi which is in the mode of ignorance. Many people do this and feel that they have attained perfection.
It is not the samadhi, it is the level on which it occurs.
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Email correspondence:
However, I have never felt an OBE or what you may call Astral Projection! I am wondering if by seeing the starfield in closed eyes total darkened (using mindfold, or even without!) is that astral plane I am in or not! If there is a separation from the physical body, what I would need to experience that?!
MiBeloved's Response:
Astral projection is absolutely necessary in the system which I teach but it starts with memory of dreams. One has to work with oneself and get dreams to be recalled. Why are they not being recalled? If you are really reaching a spiritual plane why have your psychic abilities not become fine tuned in the process?
Let us begin at the beginning which is sleep awareness, memory of what occurs during sleep. Instead of aspiring for astral projection, aspire to recall dreams, if you master that then the astral projection will follow naturally.
Take my word for it that astral projection is going on every time the body sleeps. Thus the thing to work for is awareness of what happens in dreams. If you can get your mind to shift its objective focus to the dream state then OBE will happen as a result.
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Email correspondence:
I say that since I know in your daily experiences you seem to meet other beings or entities which I see but it is really similar to a negative photos! I also see moving scenes of people, animals and even people moving say of a couple of 100 years old or so on but they are very much a random thing and I am not in control of what kind of "movie" that may come up!
MiBeloved's Response:
It does happen that one sees scenes of astral people but it is hard to be sure what is imagination and what is actual astral projection. If you give it your attention however you will in time come up with a method to distinguish astral occurrence from mere imagination.
It is not a matter of controlling what occurs. It is a matter of being objective to what occurs; being able to discern what is real astral occurrence and what is not.
