• 30
  • More

Kundalini That Mad Animal

Meditationtime Forum Post

Date:  Posted 5 years before Jul 19, 2017

 

MiBeloved 5 years ago

Query:

I wanted to ask that according to your teachings, in order to awaken the kundalini with breath infusion such as kapalbhati, one will be able to do so after the body has been purified by breath infusion to a certain degree?

 

MiBeloved's Response:

It is not my teachings. In fact in 1971, I saw a poster with a photo exactly like the one below and it was advertising a kundalini yoga master. This was in Kansas City, Missouri, USA.

 

I pioneered some aspects of my practice but the greater percentage of it, is from my superiors. Perhaps I have some value in this regard due to my willingness to record experiences and share that.

 

However what you suggested above is totally off. Here is why. There are millions of people on the planet who are engaged in sexual indulgence. They are raising kundalini by sexual exposure and sexual foreplay which then causes kundalini to rise into the genitals and give sex pleasure.

 

So kundalini is being aroused by these ordinary persons sometimes on a daily basis. And some of them even have sex more frequently each day.

 

So to begin this conversation, we must first understand what kundalini is in normal experience and how we recognize kundalini from regular activities like sex, and other types of excitement.

 

If one has to wait until one purifies the subtle body for kundalini to rise, then we are all doomed because there is not a single instance of anyone just becoming purified just like that.

 

Here is what is really the case:

 

In order to awaken the kundalini with breath infusion such as kapalbhati, one can do so immediately, if sufficient breath is infused in the system and if one manages to get that infused energy to go down to the groin area. Kundalini’s arousal has little to do with purity. It has to do with infusion of energy into the psychic system of the person.

 

To get kundalini to rise during sexual intercourse, no purity is required so why should it be required for other purposes. Purity has nothing to do with it. When I first did rapid breathing way back in 1971, kundalini was aroused and since then I am raising kundalini every day, because the stupid thing always subsides back again into the base chakra.

 

It is true however, taking up on your assumption, that when the body has been purified to a certain degree by the daily rising of kundalini, then there will be higher perception, more psychic sensitivity for that yogi.

 

The reason why kundalini rises in sex has to do with the fact that hormone energy is stored in the genital. If you operate on somebody and cut out their sexual parts, then stitch them up, that person will no longer be able to have sexual pleasure through that body, even though kundalini is still there. It is because of the absence of the sexual charge which is developed from sexual exposure, foreplay and the like.

 

In the same way it is due to the charge of fresh air build up in the system that kundalini rises up the spine in the case of this breath infusion practice.

 

===================================

 

Query:

I noticed the stereotype kind of teachings usually shows that it's all about cleanings the nadis, but with your system and correct me if I am wrong but more about the way the body takes in the breath.

 

MiBeloved's Response:

Nadis are important but what we do is to use the kundalini to purify the nadis. For this usage it has to be aroused, since otherwise it will simply be at the base chakra and will not move an inch from there except in conventional stimulation like in sex exposure and sex foreplay.

 

When kundalini is aroused with a strong charge, it is like a raging bull. So if you stand before such a bull, you are finished because the creature is brute force and ignorance. It will gore you to death and then trample you.

 

In the same way, once you get the charge from the infused breath to kundalini, it wakes up and wonders what the hell you are trying to do. Then if it is just a small charge, it will just go back to sleep and ignore you. But if it is a large charge, then it will come out of its hole to find out who was crazy enough to arouse it.

 

In sex desire a similar thing happens and then one gets to hustling to find a sex partner to gore and trample and then when kundalini has had enough of this madness, it recedes, the organs flop, lose their charge and one develops a disinterest.

 

When kundalini is aroused with a large enough charge, then the yogi applies locks to keep it confined and to force it to travel in a certain way. This is like when at a rodeo, they bring out a mad animal. The thing cannot just jump into the arena, it is kept in a strong steel pen and is released at a certain time. Then when it gets into the ring and charges and when it is just about to kill the rodeo man, they send in people to call it off and those people force the animal into an entrance where it is corralled.

 

So we use locks to force the kundalini also, once we arouse it with the infusion.

 

When kundalini is forced in this way, it goes through certain polluted blocked up nadis and because it is really mad it blasts its way through and cleans these nadis. This is felt as a pleasant or intense electric sensation by the yogi.

 

Over time as one keeps raising it day after day, one is able to find all the nadis and to have kundalini clean them out. In this way kundalini, an untamed force, the original life force energy in material nature, on the individual level, is harnessed and is made to do work for the liberation of the soul.

 

Thomer Scheepens 5 years ago

Thanks a lot for your explanation!

 

I have been doing for almost 3 months a certain combo practice, which includes 1 hour of Nadi Shodhana and lately have been doing 20-30 min of Kapalbhati + Kumbhaka

 

Yet I am unsure how one actually manage to bring the infused energy down to the groin area, is it by placing attention and awareness on a certain part on the body?

 

MiBeloved 5 years ago

What kumbhaka are you doing?

 

Please describe.

 

To be fair to you and to advice, I have to know details.

 

When is it done and how is it held and for how long?

 

1 hour of nadi shodhana!

 

Well you must be a super-yogi. Effective nadi shodhana requires very intense concentration and a non spaced-out mind.

 

Thomer Scheepens 5 years ago

After every 10 min of Kapalbhati I have been doing Antar Kumbhaka and then doing another 10 min of Kapalbhati and Kumbhaka and so on, which I guess I can hold for up to 1 min at least or a bit more than that.

 

To be precise, doing Nadi Shodhana with light kumbhaka in each nostril inhale, doing nadi shodhana right after Kapalbhati practice and ending nadi shodhana session with short Bhastrika + Kumbhaka

 

MiBeloved 5 years ago

Antar Kumbhak should mean hold the breath in the body as contrasted to breathing out and then holding and not breathing in. In any case, what you are doing is plain mad.

 

Here is the thing with the bhastrika/kalapabhati practice, you store up prana in the system so that it has a stockpile, then you stop in that posture and you hold the breath in for a time until you feel you need to pump more air in again. This is kumbhak. But it is different because it is applied not to restrain the system from expelling air and not to stop the system from getting air. There is no number count.

 

The count is when you sense that the system has used up the air you just pumped into it. You then begin the breathing again in the same or in a different posture. You begin to breathe again rapidly because the system has taken in what you just put into it and has distributed that.

 

It is like in warehousing. Whatever is at the dock has to be cleared before you can unload from the next truck. It is a system based on reality of what is going on in the body due to the infusion of air.

 

The practice of kumbhak when done haphazardly cannot produce the right results because it is not coordinated with anything specifically.

 

Rapid breathing itself does not require any mixing with another pranayama or breathing method. By itself it will raise kundalini.

 

===================================

 

Yogi Bhajan (previous material body)

 

Yogi Bhajan 

 

Replies (0)
Login or Join to comment.